For Love Or Money

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N321, whatever. Welcome to Movie Life Crisis. Join us as we watch the best movies from 30 years ago. Michael J. Fox is a bell hot.-Cos here.-Who makes everyone's dreams come true.-You guys planning to sing any shows here in 10?-But in the world's most exciting city,-He's about to discover a dream of his own.-Baby!-You mean Friday night?-I've got a boyfriend. Michael J. Fox and her first third on a breezy day, a real crap. Please, and Gabrielle on walk. We are some piece of work for love or money. Fast and you see that. Ready to be. Starts Friday, October 1st at theaters everywhere. I really thought that the music in that trailer was going to be invoked. Now you never going to get it. Not this time, but they picked the right Charles song that they played in the beginning. I like that. I know, but it's a great classic. I don't like that classic like 90s like synth stab. Um, dude, uh, as soon as he says bell hop, he's like, "Consierge." All I think of is, uh, the movie about weed with Dave Chappelle is like, "Dude, you're a janitor. I'm a custodian dick." Like he just gets so angry. Halfbakes. Halfbakes. Dude, they were supposed to name the movie because, uh, Consierge, but they, people, they were worried people didn't know what that meant. I was wondering while I was watching this, I was like, "If you are a concierge, if that's your job now, is this like your field of dreams? Like this is the movie like you guys all talk about in reference all the time. I don't think you can because Jeff and I discovered we were getting ready for this podcast that there's no legal way to view this movie in America. You can't rent it, you can't purchase it, it's not streaming anywhere. I'm flabbergasted.- Yes, luckily I still had a copy of the DVD which I ripped to my computer and so I could watch it at work and I shared it with you. I'm not opposed to purchasing movies. If I can't find them anywhere streaming, I just buy them on Amazon or whatever YouTube.- Right.- I don't care.- Like $3.00.- You can't.- It's fine. But this one you can't even buy.- You can't.- I wish you had a good one.- You could have been on a top of you.- Yeah, I could have purchased a DVD of it and then purchased a DVD player and then purchased a DVD to hook that DVD player up to.(laughing) If we'd known that, we probably would have picked life with Mikey instead of this one just so that anyone who wants to watch along with us is able to. I did find it on YouTube, someone has the whole movie, but it's like almost picture in picture, like only like a third of the YouTube frame, actually, as well. - We go watch the whole movie there.- That's so they don't get busted.- Yeah, that's just so they're getting around the,- Get around the copyright stuff.- Right, right. But you know what you can do is you just zoom in on that part of the screen.- Yeah, just zoom in.- And then you have all four pixels.- I just can't believe we did fear of a black hat for Sean on Patreon, which came out in 1994. It's streaming on peacock. That movie made like $13. streaming on peacock here on the main feed we call that peacock. A patreon we call it something different. We shorten it. That movie made me shorter.$17 and it's streaming on peacock and this movie, it made $11 million, but like, now I can't even hear you say on peacock. And the fact that I know what we shorten it to and then also you keep talking about how short it is. Makes me want to make another joke that I shouldn't.- This is the kind of nonsense that we get up to over on Patreon where we are not PG or PG 13.- Right, right, right.- Speaking of movie life crisis season three, episode 18, Michael J. Fox, Four Love or Money.- How did we get here?- How did we get here?- It could go so fast.- It could grow up so fast.- Also released as the concierge. I don't know where,'cause I don't think this movie could be released all that wide.- That sounds like a French word that they would release in France. I'm pretty sure it is a French word. Don't fact-check that, 'cause I don't know for sure. But the enemology of Gus Hirsch. Don't do it. I mean, we don't have, because this movie's not streaming anywhere, it basically does not exist anymore. There's not a ton of information on it. I found a one 15-minute video clip of Michael J. Fox being interviewed by some like local TV person in Dallas, Texas when this movie released on the press tour. Yeah. That's literally all I could find out about this movie. That's how you do it. And that in whatever is on the Wikipedia page, which is basically just the plot of the movie. Yeah, that's different. Speaking of Patreon, we just released Field of Dreams. Harry, when Harry and Matt Sally will be coming out probably next week.- That's awesome.- We're doing bonus movies there, going backwards on the Patreon. Feats were in 1989 right now. Anyone who wants to hear more stuff or just wants to support what Jeff and I are doing, five bucks a month over there is the lowest tier. Think it's your access to everything. Thanks again to all of our supporters on Patreon and also thank you to everyone listening here to the main feed because--- Tell your friends.- This is still our primary situation.- It's super fun. Thanks everybody for listening here on the main feed. We got, I don't know, eight movies left maybe for 1993.- Some really fun movies. - Really fun movies. I think maybe more, too, we get late.- Maybe four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, if you count a bonus Halloween episode.- Yeah, if we do a bonus Halloween movie.- Yeah.- Yeah.- Dang.- Still got some fun stuff coming next week.- Time funds when you're having flies.- Yes.- That's crazy.- All right, so why did we do this movie that made $11 million and was not even in the top 100 for the year, Jeff, take it away.'cause I freaking liked it. Dude, I'm e2, man. I remember-- It's Michael J. Fox. It's Michael J. Fox. Are there people that don't like him? I don't know. There's definitely not. I don't understand why I remembered it so well. I remembered all of it. I did do. There's quotes in here that I didn't realize this is where I got him from. Right. Like, I was like, oh, wait. That's who said that. All of my memories have slowly been mixed up with dreams and movies. Yeah, that's where they happened. So dude, yeah, I've remembered a lot of it and it's really, it's Michael J. Fox, dude. I know. We talked about this, this and life with Mikey, both came out in 1993. Both of them didn't do a lot of business. They're not the top Michael J. Fox movies, but we're like, we're going to definitely do one of them. We like both of them. Right. We just kind of flipped the coin, picked this one over life with Mikey, which I still like and what happened to do. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I could not believe how much Halloween opposite life with Mikey. God. I love that song. Me too.- Me too.- What were you playing?- That's a great movie. And I didn't realize until I started looking at it, like the Michael J. Fox got the Parkinson's diagnosis in '91 and they said, like, you probably only have about 10 years left where you can work. And so he just started booking a bunch of stuff. He's like, I don't know how many movies I can make. So it's like, just give me that. Yes, I'll do that. I'm not, I'll have it. So that's why these movies are coming out like in the same year. He's doing a bunch of them. None of them are all that great. He's just like, let me just get some work, like make some money, get some stuff out there.- Not all that great. I loved it.- I did too, but even in 1993, it made no money. 30 million dollar budget made $11 million. That is a big swing in a mess.- So let me ask you this, is it because this is like not Prime Michael J. Fox time? Is this the tail end of it? Yeah, 'cause it's-- - I don't know. I mean, 80s, right?- Well, back to the future was in '85, I think. And then part two and part three were like 89 and 90. So part three comes out in 90 and then 91 he does dock Hollywood. And then like Doc Hollywood is kind of the, I think the end of like Michael J. Fox is like a big movie star.- Right, but I'm saying like family ties, that's like.- Yeah, family ties.- 80s to the early 80s.- And in the back to the future mid 80s. And so yeah, that's what I actually have this on my notes later on. It's like by the time we get to Doc Hollywood in '91, which we did on one of our first episodes in season one. Like that's kind of at the tail end of Michael J. Fox's movie career. He does like some sporadic stuff, but like nothing, like it's kind of crazy how short his filmography is given how big of a figure he still is.- Right, right.- And obviously it's because of his Parkinson's, he's 32 or he's 30 when he gets diagnosed. So you gotta think that he would have been like Harrison Fordy would have made movies for another 40 or 50 years.- Right, and I probably would have seen him all.- Right, I would have seen him all. Yeah.- Yeah, I wanna talk about Michael J. Faxx, so we'll get through that.- Yeah, yeah. All right, give us his synopsis.- All right, Doug is a young man that works all day as a concierge at a luxurious hotel, saving money to make his own business. Unfortunately, when he finds the financial supporter that he needs, he discovers that his quote,"Savier is having an affair with the woman he loves." Now he's got to choose between money or love.- Nice.- See, yeah, see I switched it on purpose.- Yeah, yeah, you flip-flopped it. Did you even attempt to have AI synopsis?- Yeah, I did. It didn't know what I was talking about.- Yeah, yeah, I kept giving me another movie that wasn't a 90, I kept telling it was 93, but it gave me for the love of money and there's two different versions of that. So I just gave up.- You just did it manually.- Yeah.- Just said, forget it.- Forget a lot.- Well done, I like that synopsis. 30 million dollar budget, $11 million gross. This is 103 on the year. So outside the top 100, it's right in that range with like Robocop 3 and what's eating Gilbert Grape.- I'm like, RoboCop 3 is the stuff that they don't show on the free preview weekend of HBO when you get that free weekend.- Or like the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3.- Right.- Where it's like, if everyone wishes they could delete that one. Man, that Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3 is so, so, so bad. I thought that was like a drama production, like a small college theater adaptation.- Yeah, that's 'cause they changed up too much stuff from the first two.- I think they wrote it in about four days on the back of a paper bag and then they rented the costumes and they just wanted to do it.- But this is the thing. I know this is in 103, number 103, and I know it didn't make any money, but I don't see it as that kind of movie.- I don't either. I wish I could talk to someone like a Brian Grazier or Barry Sonnenfeldt somebody,'cause I don't understand how this didn't do better,'cause it's good.- Yeah, it's funny.- It's funny.- Like I don't.- It's well like, it's well, Brian Grazier is the producer. Like that dude has produced everything. He's got his production company with Ron Howard is like 47 Academy Award nominations.- Right.- Barry Sonnetfeld is the director. Barry Sonnetfeld's the DP for when Harry met Sally. He's directing for the Cohn Brothers. He does all them in in black movies.- Yeah.- Like Michael J. Fox is still Michael J. Fox. Like I don't get it. I don't know why this didn't do more business. And I don't know where to find that answer out, but I'm honestly really curious.- That's what I'm saying. So it's October of '93 when it's released.- Right, just like timing like that, have anything to do with it? I just, I don't know what it is. I don't even,- There's people that I talk to, like today I worked that I've never, they don't even know what this movie is.- How could they? It's not on the internet.- Why?(laughing)- I went and looked up, I went and looked up the other Imagine Films, which is Brian Grazier and Ron Howard's production company that are distributed by universal pictures. I'm like maybe,'cause they just buy like whole batches of stuff. It's like, "Hey, here's all our shit, you want it?" I think you're sure. But I'm like, there's other pictures that Imagine did that Universal distributed that you can find. In fact, most of them, but like this is just, it's not out there and I don't even know, like I don't know enough to know how that even happens, but like kindergarten cop is Imagine and Universal. Backdraft, Problem Child 2 is Imagine and Universal.- All of a sudden, I do, too though.- Yeah. Like Apollo 13, like that's the Nutty Professor. Those are Imagine and Universal.- Liar, liar. All that stuff is out and you can find it and this you cannot.- That's weird 'cause I just checked to see, so DVDs, 20 bucks, you know, wrap from Amazon. You can get a VHS for $6.20.- Hey. - It still have VHS player. And it's on Blu-ray. So if it's on Blu-ray, you would think they've already upskilled it or whatever they have to do and they could put it on streaming.- Yeah. I don't know if it's,- Did you ever buy it?- That's what I'm saying. never asked like, you know, to be like, hey, I'll give you 40 bucks for, for lover money. And I'm like, no, I'm not doing that. Like, I don't understand, I don't know how it works. I don't like, you and I are idiots, so we don't understand this stuff. But I am curious, in a movie that had Michael J. Fox in it, how is it not available for streaming? Like right now, I don't get it.- All of the stuff. And dude, looking through the thing, like everybody that, all this is a classic, fantastic love story, it's Michael J. Fox, great movie, five exclamation points. The only bad reviews are, there's two glitches that happened in the movie because there was a scratch and I had to fast forward. Yeah, like those are the bad reviews. Cisco and Ebert gave it like two stars, two and a half stars out of four. I don't like those guys. Yeah, I don't, I mean, I don't really care how much it's, you know, rotten tomatoes, which is not the most reliable thing, either is 37%. But again, there are movies in that range that have done a lot more business that, like-- Right. But also we always talk about like what mood are you in when you watch it? Yeah. If I was in a bad mood, I might give it the same audience review that this person did a hilariously unfunny pile of trash. Like that's what do you want from a movie? Like this is, God, this thing was funny though, man. Michael J. Foxx is just funny. He's stunning you. How'd that get in there? Did I get rid of that? And he's so fast with it too. He's super cool. He's good. All right. Awards we could skip sequels and sequels we could skip. This thing disappeared entirely from the culture. There was a Bollywood unofficial remake, but that doesn't count. All right, that's great. We'll do that for the Bollywood spin-off when this thing really... When the Empire happens. When the Empire happens. Can we do a Bollywood music spin-off? That's what I really want. Yeah, let's hire some people and outsource that because I don't know anything about Bollywood. We'll have a item. I have it. I have it. Dem too old to learn. Do you remember when and where you first saw this? No, I don't. This is one of those recorded off the TV things. I can remember what it looked like. was for love or money and the word or was both capitalized O and R and I don't know why that was both those letters were capitalized in the word or but I can vividly remember what the sticker looked like on the outside of the VHS. Yeah, I remember the poster. I remember what the VHS looked like and I think maybe I owned it at some point. Yeah, I still have it on DVD. That's how you watched it. Yeah, yeah, I rented it for sure when I was a kid when it came out and I probably purchased it later on when I was like acquiring in my movie acquiring face when I was just like,"Yeah, I remember this movie, I'll buy it." How much does it, it doesn't matter, here's my wallet. It's Tuesday, let's go to Best Buy. You take my wallet and give me back how much you think I should have. Just a lot of bookshelves full of DVDs with the shrink wrap on them. All still. Me too. I had so many though for reals, people would come over and just be like, "Can I rent this from you and I had to find a website that would allow me to type that in so I can remember who has what. Yeah, we have a giant used bookstore in Nashville called McKays, which is the size of a home depot and you can bring them stuff and return it and they give you store credit. And so I would take trash bags of DVDs from Louisiana when I drive to my parents house and back there and go like, "Here's all these, give me whatever you think I deserve." And they'd be like, "Get 300 DVDs. Here's $90 of store credit." and I was like, "Hey, you're right."- That's awesome. So I was converting.- He's slowly converting.- He's slowly converting.- He's slowly converting.- Yeah, they sell them for, you know, three bucks a piece or whatever. Which is fine, 'cause I don't wanna do that. So.- Dude, when I was working in LA for CVS, a store right around the corner from where the hotel I was in was closing down. And they were selling whole sections of, it was like a blockbuster type store, but it was a moment pop. And I bought whole sections.(laughing) The guy was like, you get the whole thing. You want the shelf too? And I was like, I don't want the shelf. And I literally just went through and picked a whole bunch of stuff and moved it to the shelf I wanted to. So I want all these and he's like, all right, that's fine. And then I just knocked them into a box and brought them back to the hotel room and just watched DVDs. This was before streaming. So yes.- It's like supermarket sweepstakes only that people are very sad and chubby.- Yeah.- No wait, it's exactly like supermarket sweepstakes then. Turns out.(laughing)- Well forget the blackjack.- Yeah.- Yeah, so I don't remember. We rented this one as a kid because Michael J. Fox no one's offended by Michael J. Fox. I could always watch these movies and It was good parents in the room. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. How do you rate it? Did I went back and forth? I know no sevens so But I really like dude. There's I brought I liked it so I gave it an eight Yeah, I gave it eight eight chameleon ducks say eight say eight. Yeah eight out of ten I don't I I pondered an eight honestly, but you went lower I I ended up six and a half out of 10, no sevens. So six and a half to eight or is the jump? There's one of the other. Yeah. That's a big jump too. Yeah, it's a big jump. It is a big jump. I know. But you know, we're three years in now. It's just how we're doing things. I figure if everybody listens to this, goes, you know what? JT has no idea what he's talking about. I loved Captain Ron. I think I side more with what he says. Whenever movie he says it's good. And this is one I want people to see. And I think more people, I don't know how they're gonna see it now, but I want more people to see it, so I'm giving it an eight. Yeah, and I want zero sway over any of this. You want more people to see it yet, it is impossible for people to see it, because you can't literally-- You can buy physical media. You can, you can purchase it. Yeah, six and a half. I don't have any complaints, really. It's just not like, it is ultimately a pretty forgettable movie. Like, if my kid never watches this, I'm not gonna feel like his film education is incomplete. He's at the same time he's gonna watch it cuz I really like it. It's good Like definitely by form so he has to buy a DVD. Great. Yeah, he'll chew on that because he's never gonna own a DVD player And he's chewing on his books dude this movie's funny like it's got great pace It's well directed. It's well acted you can there's a bunch of like character actors There's like a half dozen characters that you're out now. I like that guy. He was in the whatever thing Yeah, Cluj is dad got him a chair- Them things, I like that guy.- Yeah, and then the guy who manages the hotel, it's got the crazy eyes, he's been in a bunch of stuff.- Yeah, yeah.- The old guy, the frickin' dude in the ass trays, like, I don't know, it's just, dude, something about, something about Michael J. Foxx, man, he's like, he's snarky and kind of cool, but he's also vulnerable, like you can tell, I don't know how to explain it, man, He's just, I wanna be able to do like he does it. Like realize that he's vulnerable'cause he's a little short guy and he plays that up but also like he gets a lot of stuff. I don't know dude, he's really good. And I don't know why, I mean, I know why he's not making stuff now but like, I don't know why people wouldn't like him.- I don't either man. I think his legability is off the charts and I think he's, I mean, just, you know, one of the most talented actors that probably I'm ever gonna see.- Yeah, just like it's super very present, very believable, really funny, super quick. And also kind of has the ability to like, we talked about this when we did Doc Hollywood, he's so likable that he can play someone who's shitty, but you still like them because--- Still like them?- Yeah, like Tom Hanks can do that.- You know you can't do that?- Robert Redford.- A lot of people can't do that. Bradley Cooper plays someone shitty, like he didn't wedding crashers, he's like, "I hate that guy." Like Bradley Cooper cannot overcome someone that shitty, but Michael J. Fox can.- Yeah, yeah, you're right.- You're right.- But yeah, so I got six and a half out of 10. You got eight out of 10. It's fun.- It's a good movie.- Yeah, that puts us together at around seven in this nice.- That's the right range. All right, let's do scenes. What's your first scene?- Well, the first scene I have written down,'cause I just went back and did the notes after I took, watch the whole thing. When the mob guys come, and they're like, they have the little case and it looks like might be a gun case and he's carrying it, drops it down onto the freaking desk and he asks where, you know, the guy staying the Italian guy that's super freaking hairy. Yeah. Yeah. Mr. Salvatore. He's like, where's the day? Yeah. Yeah. Where's Gene Salvatore? And he's like, I don't know who you're talking about and he grabs the book and reads it. And then he tries to beat him up. They try, he tries to go up the service elevator to beat him. And every time they flash back to them, they're riding in the elevator and the shitty music's playing. It's really great. When he's running through the corridors in the back, there's like people from the hotel sleeping on shelves and stuff. Then they get there and it turns out like they're just trying to play Happy Birthday on a violin and sing it and give him a cake. And he's like, you know about this kid? He's like, I owe you one. How they set that whole thing up for later down the road with the trash trucks. And then Michael J. Fox plays it all cool. He's like, again, tonight stays on the house, like that whole thing. I like that whole scene. I remember the scene once I saw it. I was like, oh yeah, that's what it is. But in the beginning, I really did forget what it was about. So it took me on that ride, like it was supposed to, and I liked it.- That's a good scene. I don't, I was trying to figure out, like does the concierge have the power to just go like, I don't tell looked expensive, to just be like, yeah, you don't have to pay for tonight since it's your birthday. Like I have a birthday every year, as most of us do, and no hotel is ever like, you could stay for free, it's your birthday. I get like a free ice cream, or if I go to like Buffalo Wilders, I get like a free appetizer. I don't get a free-- - Free diary.- Yeah, yeah. No, thank you, I've had diary already. I don't get a free night stay at the hotel.- Right, but dude, what about Michael J. Fox the concierge? What about Doug doesn't say that he could make that work?- Yeah, he can definitely make some stuff happen. No, one of the things I really liked about this movie, and I think I like all movies like this, like the movie "Waiting" with Ryan Reynolds,- Yeah, yeah, yeah.- That movie's horrible now because all the jokes are making you're super inappropriate 20 years later. So in any movie that gives you the inside look at like a thing, like I've never worked at a hotel. So like see in the like, he goes to the secret door to the bar. It's like a service corridor and he like sprints down there and he's like,"I love that stuff."- Yeah, me too. And I like also, God, I didn't know what you were gonna say there. I like also that Michael J. Fox is the best at what he's doing.- Yeah, and it shows how he makes all that work. That's my jam.- Yeah.- So what's your first scene?- My first scene is Michael J. Fox and Gabrielle N. War. She's like the perfume girl at the freaking counter and she's also the mistress of the guy who ends up being the villain who's, he's Michael J. Fox is trying to get to loan him money so he can build his very own hotel.- Right.- But he goes to the perfume counter to like pick up a gift for the guy and then turns out she's there and he's trying to hit her and he's been trying to pick her up She's like, I have a boyfriend. But it just does the thing, she's like trying to, she's dealing with some older lady and she's like, I don't like it. I don't like the sense. And they're all getting confused in Gabrielle and we're like, maybe I sprayed on you. She's like, no, I don't think so. And then he just rolls up and he just gives her the frickin' con man. And he's like, you know what I think you need? He's like, you need some here, bring it, so I'm gonna smell it. I just sniffed her for like 20 seconds. He's like, you need to wear a laugh'cause he's like really gone into it. He's like, you need to wear it, my girlfriend wear, she's about your age, well she's probably not your age. She's think she's 34. And this woman's like clearly like in her late 50s.- Right.- The duty sells her some perfume, he gets her out of there and then get her out of the wash, like shaking her and it's like, what do you want me to do? She's out of your hair now, just tell her what she wants to hear, she goes away.- Right.- But he's like, he's so fast and he's so, like he could tell, he's just like, I don't care, I just say whatever to get the people to do what I want and then I move on with my life.- And then you go to the next step, right?- Yeah. - Exactly.- Yeah, dude, I love that part because I don't think I realize that when people shop for perfume that they spray it on the lady who's selling the perfume's arm. And then she was like, it's getting confused with all the other sense. And she's like, lend me an ear. So she puts it behind your ear and she's like, it's too woozy. And then of course, he overhears that. So when he comes up, he's like, yeah, you might as well just glue a little pine cone back there. And she's like, woozy, I'm not. And then like you said, he just lays it on thick. and he's like, "Uh, that he must spicy experience as this boy rooting and foraging morning,"leaning night." And dude, right at the end when he goes like, she grabs the bag and he goes, you'd be careful now. Like dude, kill him me. The whole time I was like, this is the Michael J. Fox that I like.- And it's your first introduction to the female lead, Gabrielle Enwar. And they're kind of like, you see the back and forth right away, like he's like, she's laughing. She knows who he is. He keeps asking around, she keeps saying no, she has a boyfriend, he's like, that boyfriend is definitely married, and it's definitely rich, she's like, I've never said that.- And he already knows, yeah.- Yeah, he calls it, that's great.- Yeah, that's my first and your second. So I guess my second.- Yeah, what am I second?- My second one is those same two, I really like, I mean, this whole movie's just those two, basically. - Right.- I don't really care about the, like, villain, the financier storyline, but it's those two, he takes her out to look at his hotel site. I just remember it from when I was little. It's like, it looks like an old castle. He's got one of those things where it's like, it's a piece of glass, but it's got like the--- It's a matte painting.- It's a matte painting. Well, I guess so. But it's like, you put it in the thing in the holder and then you look through it and it puts the entrance over the actual building.- Yeah, it's a way to like,- Super and monol.- It poses what it's supposed to look like.- Super, it was way,- I totally remember that too.- I completely remembered that. and they do that. And they, they're talking, she's a singer and she's like, I just have this dream where I'm just like singing to all these people and he's like, I can make that happen. And he literally cuts to her like singing the National Anthem in M.D. Yankee Stadium.- Yeah.- Just 'cause he's got every connection in New York City.- Yeah, he's got, he's got pull. Did you see, I don't know how closely you watched her sing that? I had to rewind it because she said, banner yet brave. And I was like, no, those are the wrong words. Let's rewind it. And Jake was like, I think those are the wrong words. He's like, isn't it wave? And I was like, yeah. But she says brave very clearly. And then it bothered the hell out of me, the whole rest of the time. Yeah, to be fair, she's not American. She was born in the Surrey. Yeah, yeah, she, uh, but she's like, he is art who I saw last night at the Rhyme and confirmed and I confirmed and I started strong middle bits, a little iffy and then you finish strong.♪ And fishing the sky and the big monkey pie ♪And dude, I totally remember him moving that palette on folding a little cover that had the glass sitting in it. That's great.- And he like slips it into a piece of driftwood and then you can see it's like, it's got the flags and it's got the African roofs and it's got the fancy cars.- You stay in the hotel with the paint.- It's super and poses it perfect.- I really like that.- Yeah, that's a cool way to do something.- I know, I know you do all that stuff now with like 3D visualizations.- Which are also very cool. But I would totally, if you're gonna build a house, you go out there and they hammer a thing into the ground, they slide a piece of glass through there, and they're like, "This is what your house will look like," right there, that's where it's gonna sit.- All you gotta do is like, yeah, you just gotta make sure you're matching up certain stuff to where it puts it in the right spot, and that would be awesome.- I feel like for people who are rich enough now, they probably would really prefer that over a 3D visualization. You drive out there, there's a piece of glass, and all the stuff is printed on it, you set that there and look right here, here's what it's gonna look like.- That's awesome.- What's your last scene?- All right, so my last scene is Michael J. Foxes just going up to kick Fiona out of the pinhouse that she's been spending time with the fiancee, her boyfriend, the bad guy. They both get in an elevator'cause he's already said like, let me guess. You see a side of him that nobody else sees and he's like just calling her out and getting it all right.- Right, right.- She's getting super pissed. She doesn't understand them, they're all the divorces off. I'm just signing a couple of people's pieces of paper.- Right, and call it in today. They get into the elevator and there's a guy really close to the camera right by the door. And he's like an older guy, he's kind of like leaning over a hunchback a little glasses, really close to the camera. And they're standing in the back and she's fuming. And he's just like, you know, doing the Michael J. Fox thing, he's just trying to calm down, straighten in at his tie. She leans over and pulls the freaking alarm and stops the, stops the, the fire alarm and pulls, stops the whole dirt. She starts yelling at him. She's like, you don't know anything about us. And he's like, did you enjoy your state the Bradbury serenity? We've tried the breakfast buffet. We're very proud of it. We're very proud of that. And the whole time she's yelling at him. Yeah. And the guys, he's not turning around to look at Michael J. Fox or her. He's just looking straight ahead going, yeah, yeah, fine, fine. Uh, dude, I freaking love that. And then as soon as they get that, you know, the doors open up and the concierge understudy and Milton are both standing there with the fire extinguishers because they want to make sure it's not not on fire. The way that old guy played it, freaking loved it. That's a great one. My last one is Michael J. Fox meets with all the other concierges in Central Park and they just are exchanging tickets. It's like I need Yankees who's got Yankees. It's like, okay, great. And he cats on Broadway cats to hear you owe me 20 and 20 is 80 minus 300 is dude. And the whole thing it looked like it was like three card Monty. Yeah. And they were just so fast. And that's what the Donnie Hugh thing is. That's where the Donnie Michael J. Fox is like he's just shuffling the tickets. He literally looks like a blackjack dealer and he's like, Donnie Hugh, how the hell like it in here? And he throws it. And that cracks me up. And then also I saw in the interview that he did on the like press junk and he's like, that was an improv from him. Nice. Because the lady asked him about the Donnie Hugh line and he was He's like, "Oh yeah, he's a guy who's just..." He's like, "I kind of came up with that." She's like, "Do you think you'll still be able to do this show?" He's like, "Oh, he's like, yeah, Phil's a friend of mine. I don't think he'll care."(laughs) And he's like, "I thought about Sally Jessi Raphael, but it's too many words, you know, and I hope we're like films in Chicago, so that one doesn't work." But Donnie, who's great, everyone knows who he is. The tickets are free, so obviously, I wouldn't need it in my pocket.- I assume that people listening to this would know who Donnie, who is.- Hopefully. Phil Donnie, you used to have a show.- He's the Donny Hew Show.- The Donny Hew Show.- But it's one of the shows where they do every day. So you don't have to purchase tickets to it. They give those tickets away'cause they're trying to get 300 people in there every single day.- Right, right, right.- But yeah, he's talking super fast. He's ripping off the other concierges. You could tell all of them are, and they're all chattering. They're having a conversation while it's going on. It's like, did you get your money for your hotel? Have you started your hotel? He's like, yeah, $3 million. It's just a couple hundred years worth of tips. He's like, I got it. He's like, I got a guy who's got it.- But the whole time he's also like, and who needs next tickets?- Yeah, and he's like, "Night Games, hold on, we'll get to your night games." It's like, "We're not there yet."- That's friggin' sweet.- And that dude, I know like, there's a lot of cutting and editing'cause you couldn't see his face, but it sounded really good. Like it was quick, like it was really good. I liked it.- That's the thing, man. It's just like a, it's just a pattern. Like the whole thing, the whole thing, man, there's so much, honestly, for a movie that is disappeared entirely, that I could still talk about. Like he takes Mr. Wegman to go buy the watch and he walks him out of the hotel. He's giving him a speech about New York. He's like, someone hands him a flyer. He takes it out of his hands and throws it away. He's like, New York is the jewelry capital of the world. You have to be an idiot to pay retail. He walks him into the shop to talk to a guy. And then he negotiates with the guy, the guy insults him. He gets Mr. Wegman to buy the watch for like a third of what he was gonna pay at the hotel. And then he's, they leave again and Mr. Wegman's like, he said, mail the box and I don't have to pay sales tax. And Michael J. Fox is like, He's like, hold on, let me go ask about that. Let me go find it.- Yeah, that can't be right. Let me make sure.- He runs back in the story, he gets a frickin' kickback from the guy and he's like, that was a great insult. I hadn't heard that one before. See you next time. Like the whole movie is just jammed full of moments like that.- Yeah, and it's all just Michael J. Fox knowing how to work every angle of all the things.- Yeah, and that's great. Dude, that whole Mr. Wegman thing where he sees what's happening in the beginning and then just kind of lets it go and then decides to help. That's freaking genius. That's, that's good shit. How would it? And it does another aspect of this movie I really like is any movie where there's like fast talking or con, con artists, I really love like, yeah."Mashstick Men" what's the one with the Will Smith and Margot Robbie like any movie like that? I love. Where with the football players down on the field? Yeah. Who was that called? Something good. With Super Bowl. I don't know how I can look it up. Doesn't matter. Yeah, it's all good. Yeah, it's good. What about quote, it says all three, right?- For you?- Yeah, yeah, so what's your first quote?- I don't have a lot of quotes. The first one I got is early on the movie, he goes to buy something at the Co-tail gift shop and he's buying like men's and it's like, he needs like $99 and change in the woman.- $99.46.- $99.42 and the woman working the gift shop is like clearly this old lady who's not in a hurry and wants to like really talk to him.- Right.- And it's like, okay, so it's, It's, it gave me a hundred, it's a sixth, it's 58 cents. And so she starts typing into an old school adding machine. He goes, yeah, 9942. She goes 9942. He's, yeah, anywhere in that ballpark is fine. Don't worry about, I'm not fussy about the, yeah, she hands them, all right. Here's 1942 and he goes 9942. Oh, do you know why I said 1942? No.'Cause you're trying to cheat me out of money, yeah. Yeah, 'cause you're trying to stiff me out of 80 bucks. I was married in 1942. I was a war bride. He's like, "I think I read that."(laughing)- A library. He goes, "I think I read that." In a library. Dude, if you look at the magazines behind them,'cause I had paused it to write that part down to. Dude, USA Dream Team is on like four or five magazines.- Yeah.- Signed Felds on the cover of G-Tune.- I saw that.- Princess dies on a whole bunch of them. It's old school magazines. Yeah, dude, I had that 99.42 written down, but it didn't make my cut for the--- Yeah, I just had anywhere in that ballpark is fine because I just cracked me up when he said that I rewounded to watch the whole speech. I said, "God, he's just..." But it's the same thing, it's the Michael J. Fox thing. He's being a dick to this old lady, but it's hilarious and I'm not upset about it at all.- And she's not upset either.- Yeah, she's not upset either. That's what I love. I wanna be able to do that to someone's face and not--- Dude, I'm pretty sure you can do that. I think you have that ability. I do not. people get mad at me even when I'm being nice to him. And you could say whatever to anyone. And I'm like, "That Jeff, he's funny. I like that guy." See if he wants to come over for Thanksgiving.- I want, I'm just gonna start studying Michael J. Fox and just, I'm gonna get that down perfectly.- You have to run your hand through your hair a lot. That's the key.- Yeah, I can't do that.- No, no. What's your first quote?- All right, first quote, apparently this is where I got it and I say it all the time. I'm a sympathetic vomitor. I hear it, I see it or I smell it. I'm going to. Dude, sympathetic, I think I say sympathetic puke, but he says vomiting, dude, this is where I got that. I say that all the time. Somebody throws up at lunch and I'm on lunch duty. I'm like, whoo, I gotta leave. I'm a sympathetic vomiting. Like I get the heck out of there.'Cause I am that person also. Dude, I say this literally all the time. Every time somebody's gonna throw up. You never had to come clean about that. No one would have ever known.- No, yeah, people still, like, now nobody still knows'cause nobody listens to this podcast. And also, you can't watch the movie.- This is the first time in the history of our podcast that more people will listen to us talking about the movie than we'll have watched the movie.- That's true.- Because you cannot watch it. This is, we finally have pulled ahead.- Yeah, we're in the lead. But yeah, sympathetic puke, sympathetic vomiter.- That's my first one.- Nice.- My next one, I only had two, but my next one was that Mr. Wegman is this, like he's staying at the hotel, he's kind of a Midwest, like just, he's very, I mean, it's the 90s, so he's not a boomer, but he looks very boomer-y. But he's like wearing his frickin' like, you know, Tommy Bahama shirt, not really,'cause it's not Tommy Bahama, but it's that style, he's dressed like a corn ball, he's like probably wearing dad shoes, like a referee. He's fancy hotel, he's got his wife there. She's mad 'cause he's not planning anything. He's tipping the bar 10 or 50 cents after he eats lunch. Like he has no idea what's going on.- It's a very good sandwich, thank you very much. He's not ready for New York City at all.- Right.- And so Michael J. Foxx is the bartender, guilt's him into helping out. He's a nice guy. He's like, "You helped me in the midst of this."They added divorce court and so Michael J. Foxx rolls up to him"and just goes, I got the tickets you wanted."Miss Saigon's very hard,"so I couldn't get you all the way to front"but you're in the fourth row." And he's like, and then go to this place for dinner, you got the reservations. Everything's ready to go. Just like, he asked me for, like, I don't know where it just gives it to him.- Right.- Just sets him up and his wife's like, Sparky at so nice I'm gonna go get a dress got a mind here done. Yeah, I can see Kenneth. He does a vana right Yeah, and then and then afterwards Mr. Wiggins like oh you really saved my bag It's isn't called me Sparky in years He's like tries to hand him like a crumpled one dollar bill and Michael J Fox Just you just like pushes it back to me Don't confuse yourself with all these little denominations Just wait until I'm the best friend you've ever had and then give a tip that's so painful. It's like passing a kidney stone- Oh man.- Freakin, yeah. I vividly remember that too before I even watched that movie. Like I remember him not tipping well.- Yeah.- Dude, does he even ever tip? Like remember, when they're dancing later, he's like, oh, he must be a big tipper. He's like, no, not really. You're just doing it 'cause he's a nice guy.- No, he never knew. - He's not.- But that's the thing, man. This is like, you know, I'm not saying we should teach a film school class about this movie, but that's another really smart part of this movie. So you just, that guy ends up playing an important role later on both with Gabrielle and War, he likes telling her, she's like, yeah, I held, like, Doug will do whatever for anybody who can help him out. And he's like, that's not my impression of him at all. He hasn't done anything for me, he's just helped because he's nice.- Right. - But I guess you probably know him better than I do. Like, so he helps her see that like maybe, like obviously Doug's doing whatever for her, you know, boyfriend, boyfriend, Christian,'cause he's trying to get him to finance his hotel. But he's also helped Mr. Wegman, who's gonna tip him like 50 cents.- Right.- So she sees these actually is like, he's just helping people. And then like,- In a break time.- And Mr. Wegman's gonna be the one who actually finances the hotel because Milton, the old like.- Check ass.- The old guy that Michael J. Fox wouldn't let them fire accidentally mailed his best practice to the bell hop, mailed it to the Wegman's instead of to the people it was supposed to go to.- Right. Instead of the box that you already talked about.- Yes, instead of the box that the watch was supposed- Right. - This is like, this is a smart, like well-built movie.- Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Why?- Six and a half get out of here with that shit.- Well, dude, it's just going to give it to you.- I think I'm going to give it to you.- Yeah, what do they know? We're so much smarter than them.- Yeah, well, I mean the 93 moviegoers didn't go see it.- Yeah, no, that's what they're based on. They're going in, going, wow, nobody saw this, but I guess we can review it.- I do, we gotta figure out, We just need to get big enough that we can get these questions answered. I just wanna be able to call someone who was around then and just go like,"Hey, it's JT from movie life crisis."Please explain to me why for-lover money"didn't do better in 1993,"'cause I was a kid and I have to know."I just wanna be at the level I wanna get to."We can get like not making any money"and doing this in our free time."I just wanna get those questions answered."- Yeah, I did totally agree. And maybe somebody listening knows how we can get that question answered. Please let us know.- The problem is, I feel sure we could get that question answered, but we don't even know enough to know who to ask.- Right.- Like we're so ignorant, we don't even know where to go ask that question.- Yes, we're just asking each other and both of us are just shrugging us, which video chat. We're looking up money laundering in the dictionary and a couple of nerds.- Yes, this idea is hottable.- Yes, it is, hottable. Sorry, so my second one is Mr. Jean Salvatore, who is the dad from Clueless is at the door of his pin house or sweet that he's staying and wearing his very shaggy sweater made out of chest hair. Good God, he's so hairy. So hairy, he's so gross. He answers the door. He answers the door and it's Michael J. Foxx. He's like, yeah, thanks for taking care of that, Doug. You know, you think we can get some of them things? He's like, "Things?" Some of them, some of them things on the pillow. Oh, what? I wanna talk to you about them things on the pillow. He's like, "Air?" He's the dumb things. He's like, "Anishals." He's like Michael J. Fox's frantically trying to figure out what he's talking about. And he's like, "Dem things at night on the pillow." And then you could see it hit his face. Oh, "Mence!" pillow mints. Yes, I will get you pillow mints. He's like, "How many would you like?" He's like, "How many do we want?" And the girl in the back's like, "A lot." And then a lot of Shelby. and he gets a $100 bill handshake. Demtangs was cracking me up.(laughing)'Cause they were going back and forth and he just kept the hair. I don't what?- I remembered that part as it was happening as like Demtangs was like, oh, he wants the men's. Michael J. Fox can't figure it out.- I was telling people that work today but I was like, Demtangs, and I was trying to tell this story and they're like, the chocolates? I was like, just let me finish. It's pillow mints. Yeah, so that was my second one. Do you not have a third one? classic. I didn't have a third one. All right, so my third one is Milton. Milton Glickman. When he, the, the, the, well boy, dude, he, uh, Bellhopp every line he had was amazing. I could have written down every piece of dialogue he delivered. Well, I think I did because, um, the part that I had, I wanted to talk about how he changed, only makes one trip. Milton, Milton Glickman has never to take in two trips in his life. And he goes through all the things.- Oh!- The whole list.- 168 pieces, one trip, like he goes through the whole thing. That's not the part that I wanted to do. He comes up to him about mid movie, and he's having the same problem. He's got a freaking guitar in his back, and it keeps falling, hitting the ground, when he bends over to pick up a piece of paper. And he's taking forever to do this thing where he presses a script B from the Bradbury, which is the name of the hotel, into the ash tray, into the sand, in the ash tray. - The sand in the ash tray. If you go to really nice hotels, they do the imprint of the freaking logo. And he was like, can you hurry it up? He's like, I did this, and Mr. Bradbury's funeral. When I did this to his ashes, people wept.- Dude, I don't know why that hit me so right. I was dying laughing. Dude, that guy. - That guy.- Mr. Bradbury was very particular about the ash trays, and Michael J. Fox is like, He's been dead since 1967. These people have a three o'clock flag. Can we just hurry it along?(laughing)- When I did this to his ass, people wept. Ah, he freaking killed it. By the way, do you know that guy's real name? How do you say that?- I can see it clearly in front of me, but there's no chance, it's, it's, it's,- It's all in British.- I know, yeah.- I know, yeah.- I know, yeah, I know, yeah.- I know, yeah, I know, yeah.- I know, yeah, I know, yeah.- But his first name is FYVUSH.- Yeah, on his Wikipedia page, it says his name is Philip. Five-ish, FYVUSH, Finkle.- Yeah.- Which I'm not going to. I guess I just did attempt to put out. Let's just call him Philip Finkle.- Yeah, Mr. Finkle. Laces out, Dan.- Laces out, genius. He was brilliant.- And he was really, and dude, him vacuuming in the bar, and Michael J. Fox is trying to talk to him on the phone. And he just, he puts the phone down on hold and he says,"Just go, go, go and let's him vacuum." He kind of vacuumed the bar at three o'clock. It's three o'clock on the dot, dude. He was great.- Yeah, but the whole thing when I did this to his ashes, people wept. Michael J. Focker's, I'm sure that's not all they did.(laughing) Dude, that's a throwaway line that's great.- Yeah, that's Michael J. Fock's.- Yeah. - I had a little extra thing on there. I never used the word for Lauren until this movie.(laughing) But when he tells Michael J. Fock's to make him sound for Lauren, and then he just keeps banging that home. He's like, "Four Lauren is really the word I think that really encapsulates what he means." Dude, since then I've been using that word. I learned it from this movie.(laughing)- Make me sound four Lauren.- All right, good deal.- I don't see characters.- My first character is Gabrielle and Warton. No, I'm just Michael J. Foxx.- It's Michael J. Foxx.- He's the best man, too.- I, he's just an incredible actor. He's one of my favorites. And I, I think he's doing amazing stuff. He's raised almost $800 million for Parkinson's research.- Yeah.- And ultimately, that's probably more important than making a bunch of really great movies. But I do, I am for Lauren that we didn't get four more decades in my life as Fox movies.(laughing) I think that would be the word to describe it.- That's just the perfect word, it's for Lauren.(laughing)- Dude, Michael J. Fox is my first also. I wanna find somebody who explains why I like him better than the way I can'cause I just can't put it to words. I tried to think of the like, for reals. Like there's a lot of movies where he's just kind of snarky but he's vulnerable but also cool and like, I don't know, dude, he's just really good. And he plays this kind of part in a lot of those movies and I love it.- Yeah, I mean, he started on family ties and he was supposed to, like that show was supposed to be about the parents. Like it was the concept was like the parents are really hippies and the kids are really square. So he was supposed to play this like WASPy like Republican kid with like his Alex be Keaton with his freaking ties. And like by the fourth episode, everybody involved with the show figured out that like this guy is so compelling, we're gonna change the concept of the show to feature him more because people can't look away from him. So I just think that he's just like that type of force as an actor that he just, he comes on screen, you go like, I gotta watch this guy, he's gonna do something interesting. I'm very, I gotta figure out what's going on here.- Every time we talk about family ties, or I talk about family ties, I have to tell the story about when you were hang you and Will went to go see Javier at the Alec Capricacino or wherever it was. Yeah, right. My far away from, yeah, Lafayette. And you guys couldn't think of the family ties theme song and you called and woke me up. Yeah. And it was like freaking 1230 midnight, like middle of the night. Yeah. And I wake up and you're like, what's the theme song to family ties sitting here with Javier? And I was like, what will we do, baby? You were like, "Yes, that's it!" And I was like, "Ah, that's a freaking great story. I like telling that story." Plus, it's got Denise Williams. You know, Johnny Mathis and I like hearing it for the boy. Yeah. I'm trying to get, I'm trying to get Denise Williams. I'm trying to get that on Wolf's playlist next. I just sing him songs until he starts asking for that song and then that song goes on the playlist. That's how I got Mariah Carey Dream lover. Dude, that kid went all through Amsterdam. Just beltin' out Dream lover in public parks.(laughing) Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, and his like little toddler voice.(laughing) And then like, line out Richie all night long, but like, let's hear it for the boy. Things the next one I really wanna get on there and more do that.- Let me tell you this.- So I don't know if you remember Big and Singing, let's hear it for the boy. And that part that she always does where she's like,"Rah, that's it!"- All right, so that is CC's favorite part since I pointed that out. And she sings it almost like Big and Now. It's ridiculous. It's fun.- That's great. You had to really put a little something on it. That's fantastic. Really dig down.- Yeah, I don't know how to explain Michael J. Foxx, but he's amazing and I think as soon as he got on TV, everyone realized he's amazing and they've been like trying to get him on TV ever since. I watched the 16 minute interview of him on YouTube. Like he's, doesn't want to be there. He's talking to some like old lady in Dallas for like public Dallas public TV or whatever.- Right.- And he's like, his energy level is terrible.- Yeah.- He's because he's pitch, he's trying to promote this movie in Dallas, Texas. he doesn't want to be there. And still I was like, he's not just staring at him, I was just like,(laughing) Oh, there's a really good story. He wasn't even trying to make it interesting. Like he wanted to be done. I could tell that he wanted to be done. And I was still like, it was compelling. Yeah, I need some of that. He's just like, he's just like, I'm in, I don't know. I want some of that so I can keep being a teacher for longer so I can keep their attention. Dude, if you had some of that Michael J. Foxy, we'd already be retired from teaching and this podcast would be a huge enterprise. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I need some of it. I need something. We definitely need it, but we don't have it. We need a piece of it. I'm gonna go in here. I'm excited. You got anything you want to add about Michael J. Fox? No, I just really like, the first thing I wrote down was I like-- Do you want to talk about what the J stands for? Yeah, what does the J stands for? It doesn't stand for anything. Yeah, it stands for nothing. You know why? There, 'cause there was another Michael Fox in the screen actor's guild, and you can't have two people with the same name. Yeah. And his middle name was like, I don't know, I started with an A and he was like-- Yeah. Michael A. Fox is like, that's dumb. I don't like that.- Michael A. Fox.- Right.- Yeah. But he's like, oh, I like, there's a character that he liked that was Michael J. Something is like, oh, Michael J. But the J stands for, he's like, I tell people that J stands for genius.(laughing)- It's breaking Michael J. Fox, man.- It's funny.- Tellin' Jerry Horn jokes.- Oh, God, that's awesome. The J stands for genius. I freaking love it. I can't wait to use that.(laughing)- I like how in the very beginning, we were made to think he was the wealthy guy sitting in the back of the the limo. I really like that. Yeah, that's a good misdirect. It's a good year. Who's your next character? My next character is Philip Finkle Milton Glickman. Man, he's good. When I did this to his ashes, people wept. I think dude, he's so good. He played it perfect. I don't remember him from anything else other than that. I didn't recognize anything else that he was in that I remembered him being in. Dude, I just really liked him as the bell hop. I thought it was funny. He's frigging walking slow. The guy wants to fire him, but they can't. Oh man, it's really great. He's around forever. He was, he won an Emmy for Pick Offences, which was a drama in the '90s, which I did not watch. He was on Boston Public. He originated the Fiddler on the Roof on Broadway in the '60s. He just worked for, I mean, he died in 2016 in the age of like 93, but yeah, the dude run. As a hell of a run. But yeah, I don't remember him from anything else really. Even though I definitely saw other stuff he was in. Yeah, everything he did in this was fantastic.- Shoot, every time he was on screen, I liked it. It was good. Who's your second?- My second was Gabriel Enwar.- Yeah.- I was really liked her. I always thought she was super cute when I was younger and obviously now still, but.(laughing)- What about her now?- I feel like she's now.- Yeah.- Yeah, dude, absolutely.- Yeah.- Yeah, she still looks great. Always and forever, she would never have talked to me, so it doesn't matter.(laughing) But yes, but I thought she was a really good female lead. She just never really got, I was kinda,'cause in the '90s, there was no, if someone, if you didn't see somebody in a movie for a while, you had no idea what had happened to them.- Yeah.- And Louisiana, you're just like,"But I'm not one girl,"she's in a couple of movies that I liked." and then like 10 years later, she's in burn notice. And you're like, "Hey, there she is again."- Hey, there's that chick.- Now we can figure out why, but at the point, I couldn't, do you know she was married and had a kid with Craig Sheffer?- Yeah, I was gonna say, she used to be married to Craig Sheffer.- Jo came from the program and also from the Fish and Movie with Brad Pitt and your favorite Robert Refford.- Robert Refford.- Yeah, she does wild hearts can't be broken in 1991. She's in "Sent of a Woman" '92, neither of which we did in the podcast, somehow we just, neither of us made it. But those are pretty memorable roles, both of those.- Absolutely.- But then she, to me, like kinda disappeared until Burn Notice like in the early 2000s.- Burn Notice, yeah, that was late 2000s. Wasn't I, Burn Notice where she played Fiona? That's literally, like I didn't even remember her being--- Yeah, Burn Notice 2007.- 2007.- I knew it immediately when I started watching Burn Notice, I was like, "Hey, that's the girl from those movies"I liked in the 90s."- See, I didn't put those two together.- I'm looking at her film, "Irfates," Not like she did a bunch of like direct to video stuff in the late 90s. I mean, probably what happened is she got married and she had a kid and she wanted to spend some time raising a kid and like she was able to. That's a good thing too. And then she started working again and really it was like, you know, TV stuff. But yeah, going back through her thing, I saw that she was in the movie if it looks good kill. And we really missed the boat not doing that in '91 because I used to love that movie. We missed the bunch in '91 because we didn't start until August. So we missed like, we would have done 15 more movies then. I just don't that's probably one of those movies that you're also can't you can't stream anyway though so it's probably I cannot believe that there are movies that you can't purchase digitally in 1993 because we're I mean this is all stuff from me. Yeah. Yeah. This dude I I don't know. I just what's your what's your third character? My third character is Michael Tucker plays Harry Wegman. Yeah. The the the dork from the Midwest that you were talking about. I really liked him. Like he played that part perfect and I liked how he was the person that kind of saved it all. You know what I'm saying? Like he fixed all of the problems that were arising in the movie indirectly. Yeah, and I really like it. And I like how you could tell he was so out of his element when he was in New York, like you were talking about. But then at the end of the movie, when he gets that proposal and he's at the head of the table in that board meeting and he's throwing freaking directions around you could tell, like that's what he was actually supposed to do.- Yeah, and he's like, I got the proposal. He's like, we don't usually deal in loans this small. He's like, but I love it. And it's like, who'd I write to check out to?- That's freaking amazing. Yeah, so I put him down. I like to do a regimen.- Yeah, he's great, man. He's my third character as well. He's Michael Tucker, the actor. He's done a bunch of stuff. He was in LA Law for like nine years. And not like a character actor, but like one of those guys that just comes into stuff and like he's in D2.- Yeah.- Not a lot of stuff that I recognize really, but the few things that I recognize him from. But he's great in this movie. This is like, I was thinking about this when I was watching it. I was like, this is the classic, this would be the Bill Hader role. You know, he's like the guy that's like kind of important to the story but isn't in that much of it, but when he is there, he's like doing good stuff.- Yeah, he can carry it if he needs to, but he doesn't have too much time.- Right, he might say some stuff that's important enough that he'll end up in the trailer for the movie.- Right.- He's my third as well.- Good, good, good, good three.- I like it.- Let's do a writer director. I didn't have anything about the writer, but I did have the director Barry Sonnenfeld who already talked about. I knew him from "Men in Black." He did all the "Men in Black" movies.- That's what I was gonna say."Men in Black" and "Wall-Wall West" were the ones that I knew.- "Men in Black" and "Wall-Wall West." Like I recognized his name. It said like, "Produced by Brian Grazier, directed by Barry Sonnenfeld, starring Michael J. Fox." That's when the credits hit those three names appeared. And I was like, "How did this movie not do more business?" Those are three really big names. Barry Sonnefeld, this time is not a big name, but the other two are. But I immediately recognize them from Men in Black and Wawa West.- Well, Wawa West and Men in Black both made a lot of money. But like, another movie that he made that I love, Will and I quote all the time, big trouble. Like, that was another movie that did super poor. Like it made, zero, like it negative. It was something like $40 million and only made eight or something crazy like that. - Yeah. Like, that's crazy to me that that's a thing.'Cause even that, that's like, do you know what movie I'm talking about, big trouble?- Yeah. - With Tim Allen and whatever her name is. Renee Russo and, dude, she's got a ton of people in it. And like, it's super funny. I don't understand how these movies aren't making money. Like, I don't, again, I don't know who to ask either, but like, he's made a ton of movies that have a very specific look and a very specific style. And I always like him. That's why it's weird that nobody else does.- Well, he did some stuff for the cone brothers. He did raising Arizona, Miller's crossing. Raising Arizona was a big movie for the cone brothers, but again, it made $30 million on a $5 million budget. And then he was the DP for some Rob Reiner stuff, like Harry Medzalli and Misery, like those are big movies.- Yeah, I think.- He works on throwmama from the train. But he was a big too.- Yeah.- Sent him a tiger for something.- He got to start working in Bornatus.- Of course.- That's filming him, I'm guessing, not acting.- Well, I would assume filming him, which seems like the worst part of that to be in.- But dude, Barry Sonnetfeld is a really good director. He's done a bunch of stuff that I like. I can get shorty, all the men in black stuff, while while west.- I, dude, I'm with it. I really enjoy his stuff. The guy who wrote the movie, Rosenthal. He did "Jule of the Nile", that's my jam. Some of the, like, one of the new planet of the apes. like he wrote some of the stuff that I've seen. Super-medicine. Super-medicine. Yes. Super-medicine. What is this? I can't believe we have two office-based jokes in here.(laughs) But he worked with the other guy, Lawrence Conner. They worked together on a lot of those movies. Dude, I like a lot of those movies. I don't know. Like how do these movies not make money? Do people just not like movies, maybe? We're gonna have to figure out how to answer that. And probably if people knew the answer to that, they would be making tons of money financing movies. I think I'm sure the studio that spent $30 million on this money didn't think it wasn't gonna make money. They clearly expected it to,'cause you wouldn't spend $30 million to get back 11.- Right.- So probably that's--- We've spent 40 million to get back eight or whatever other ones.- Right, that's what I'm saying.- So I don't wanna ask you this much.- They obviously want them to make money, and they're trying to make money. Everyone's intention is for them to make money. So when they don't, I'm sure people are going like, I don't know what happened there.- Yeah, I know. Sometimes what happens is the movie isn't good, but this movie is good.- Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.- I don't know, maybe they needed a bigger star, female lead or another big star in there. Maybe Michael J. Foxx was sick from Parkinson's and didn't do the press tour that he wanted to do. Maybe at least in the wrong month. I have no idea. Maybe they didn't have a marketing budget, and so they were hoping it would be word of mouth.- Maybe people didn't know it, conciergement.- People still don't know that,'cause I know you and I don't know that. I'm going to-- A concierge is an employee of a multi-tenant building such as a hotel or apartment building who receives guests. The concept has been applied more generally to other hospitality settings and to personal concierges who manage the errands of private clients. Yeah. All right, worst, you got any worst? I do have a couple of things. There's people's teeth where yellow is hell in this movie. What the hell? I didn't remember people's teeth being this yellow. This is a rubber red and vodka commercial.(laughing)- We're being ugly as ugly people.- Where did they get all these ugly people?- Yeah, that was the worst thing. Like he said, it was quick.- Yeah. - Like it was very well-paced, all that stuff.- I mean, I think there's probably some minor quibbling I could do with the big storyline where like the guys trying to rip him off. I don't care of that much about that. I didn't think that took up a lot more of this movie than it really needed to for me. The whole, like he's like, calls on a favor and takes a helicopter ride and he jumps out of the helicopter on the beach. That whole thing, I could--- Yeah. Dude, that house, by the way, I was like, holy shit, is that Bernie's house? From Weakend to Bernie's, it looks just like it. Which was also in the Hamptons, but it turns out that house that they filmed was in South Carolina. So no, that's a different house. Yeah. That really no major complaints. The funny thing is this movie is like, it's about 90 minutes, 96 minutes, but you know, minus credits, 90 minutes. Right. I watched it on my computer and even still I sat and watched it in one go. Like I didn't. A lot of times I'm watching stuff on TV and it's like 35 minutes. Like I'm gonna pause this and I'm gonna get a snack and do some stuff come back to it. But like this one, like I went straight through it, even sitting at my computer desk, watching it on my stupid super fast paced. I like it. I like it. You really get passing. Dude, we haven't gotten to old tech. I'll wait till we get there. Yeah, let's do it because I don't have any yet worst. Okay. Two old techs that I had was the Concord. He missed. Yeah. They talked about the Concord. That's awesome. to teach now that don't, don't even know what that is. Dude, there's people that you teach with, they don't know what that is. Yeah, but those people are dumb. The other thing was, this old tecola, there was at the 12 minute and 52nd mark, the phone is ringing and the sound of that phone, ringing, it's like a digital phone ring, is the sound from pizza, I'm sorry, I can't remember. It's like, it's a ringing sound, and I've never been able to find that as a sound to download'cause I would love to use that for something in my class. I don't know how to look that up. Like how do I find that?- Wait, can you not grab it from the movie?- No, there's too much talk, I tried. There's too much talking and stuff over it. I couldn't like filter it out. I was like, enhance and it wasn't working. Like I just couldn't get it to sound right. If you could figure out what that sound is called or what I even look up to find that ring, Dude, I've gone through so many rings. I'll go back and listen to it. You got, it's at the 12 minute, 50 second mark. I don't know what to do. I really went that sound. Five questions. Is it okay for kids? Yeah, same like to me. Six, my six year old Washington, it's fine. It was great. Did she enjoy it or did she just watch it? Yeah, she laughed at some of the stuff. She was getting it. She has a great sense of humor though, so. She does. Regular six year olds made me not. Regular six year olds for sure, not. Would this movie get made if it were pitched now? I don't, I mean,- Is there a Michael J. Fox type person anymore?- That's the problem, man. I don't know how to recast if it's Michael J. Fox, so I don't have anyone to put in that slot. And I also don't, no one makes romantic comedies anymore, really.- Right.- We're going to see bottoms this weekend, which I'm pretty excited about.- Yeah.- It's like apparently only LGBT filmmakers make romantic comedies, which is fine. I'm there, I'm going. But like all the rom coms we can get, I'm counting yet.- But they, yeah, they don't make a lot of them anymore.- So yeah, I don't know if you can get this movie made without Michael J. Fox, given that it's basically a rom com.- Right.- I don't see why not, it's not expensive and it would be fun, but I just don't know, they don't do it.- Yeah, probably 'cause you won't make anything anymore. That's why they stopped making them.- They didn't make it stinks.- They didn't make money with Michael J. Fox in this movie, so I'm sure they're not excited to do another one.- Right, right, right.- Movie or TV show? It seems like a movie to me.- It's a movie, right? Did you do any recasting? I gave you my Bill Hader role, but I don't know.- Yeah, yeah. So I didn't, no, I really couldn't do it, dude. I was trying to come up with like, like Tom Holland is about the right age, but like, I just can't, as charming as Tom Holland is, he's not Michael J. Fox.- No, he's not. And dude, I couldn't find anybody that would redo it. Like all the people, I was just like, you know how I try to do it. I go by age and then I say like, maybe let's find somebody that's not white. Since there was all white people in this movie. And even there, I was just having trouble. There's no chance to find a real, like, is there an African American Michael J. Fox?- Yeah. Who's, who's friggin' charming like that and can say stuff to people's face and still get away with it?- I'm sure there are a bunch of people, I just don't know them.- Yeah, I don't know. I mean, that's the problem. Is I'm looking-- - And even the pictures.- Even the people that are like really quick, like Kevin Hart, really quick, also very short. Michael J. Fox sized, but like not charming, just really funny and really quick.- Right, right.- And like he's not doing a rom-com.- Yeah, plus he's a little old for this part now.- Well, aren't we all, but like I'm saying, like there are people out there, I just don't know. I do want Steven Root to play Milton Glickman.'Cause that did can play anything.- Yeah, he's great.- Yeah. But no, I couldn't recast it. I was having trouble with that.- Can you still watch and enjoy this movie in 2023?- Yeah, man, I can't say eight.- It's okay.- Everyone should watch it. I mean, everyone should not watch it'cause it's impossible to watch it. We don't like this one at all, don't try and watch it. Sorry, sorry friends, we don't know how to fix that.- You can sail the high seas of the internet and get it.- I'm sure somebody's got it out there.- Yeah, it's around potentially.- Maybe.- We cannot legally comment one way or the other, but it's probably. Or go on YouTube, type in for Love or Money, 1993, and there's an entire copy of it on YouTube.- And zoom in, really close.- Zoom in and hands.- Yeah. Thanks for listening. Next movie on the regular feed. I have not seen this movie in so long.- Dude, I've seen it once, and I'm pretty sure I watched it with you.- So Vester's still on Cliffhanger. cliffhanger. This is such a JT movie in my head. I'm 99% sure I watch this show with you. It really is, man, because there was this just brief moment in the early 90s where like, remember that movie where Wesley Snipes was like a skydiver with Natasha Hinstridge? Yeah, there's a couple likes there a couple like terminal velocity. No, drop zone drops. So there were yeah, like there was just a moment where these were the movies that everyone was making. This is one of those really stupid action movies that's what's the one with made a ton of money. This thing made like a hundred and something million dollars. Of course it did. It's still own. Who's the guy who played Chris Chris O'Donnell? Didn't he do a climbing movie? Yeah. They were on the same time too. Yes. Yeah. I don't know. We're going- I catch no dogs. - That's all right.(laughing)- Yeah, I can't wait for Cliffhanger. I'm super excited. And Patreon has friggin' the next one is...- I'm very excited.- Harry and Sally.- I love that shit.- Let's do it.- All right, thanks everyone for listening. Please remember to join us on Patreon if you want to hear some of the old movies or support the arts and we'll see it.- Support the arts.- In two weeks for Stallone. That's the first Stallone movie we've done.- I can't wait.- That's 'cause we missed Oscar.- We missed Oscar. And we'll do another one a few weeks after Cliffhanger, which is one of my favorite movies of all time.- It's a demolition man. - It's a demolition man.- Yeah, yeah, yeah.- She absolutely freaking cannot wait for.- That's such a, I'm gonna watch that one early so I can really make sure I have so much notes that you have to edit all the stuff out.- Yeah, that could easily be a two hour episode. Just go deep on Taco Bell.- I'm gonna go deep on Taco Bell tonight. So don't worry about that, that's coming.- All right, via Candios. Vyokandias! subscribe, rate, and review, and remember, don't drive anger.(upbeat music)(upbeat music)