The Fugitive

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[Music] Welcome to Movie Life Crisis. Join us as we watch the best movies from 30 years ago.[Music] All right, listen up. We have the fugitive that's been on the run for 90 minutes. What I want out of each and every one of you is a hard target search of every gas station, Residents warehouse farmhouse in house out house of doghouse in this area I can I I left it there for you. I left a phone number. That's great. That's great. That isn't amazing trailer. Yeah Yeah, they said the name. You heard, Deputy Marshall Samuel Gerard do his thing. You know what to expect, going into that movie. I like it.- Did you read the thing about,'cause they shot this movie sequentially, they shot it in the order that it ended up being in, which they don't do a lot.- Yeah, I was gonna say that, they don't normally do that.- Yeah, and they, this was like, they were writing a script every morning before they shot the scenes. And they made Tommy Lee do that speech because they're like, we got a tight window, we're gonna put this movie out, we need this speech for the trailer. So like he did it twice, he did it one time for the movie, and he did it one time for the trailer. And you can tell that version, we just heard the trailer, it's not the one that was in the movie.- Yeah, I heard that, and I was like, maybe I'm just misremembering it.- No, that's awesome.- That's the version needed just for that,'cause they said like the trailer version is just him, there's no other actors, this is like extras and stuff.- Yeah.- And so, and he was,- I love this movie.- And he was like, this is like the sixth day of filming. He's like, we don't even know what this movie, we don't have an ending, we don't even know what we're doing here. And they're like, it'll be fine, don't worry about it. And he's like, okay, here you go, I guess.- Yeah, dude, but I think everything I read is him and Harrison Ford were like, ad-lib and so many lines.- Yeah.- That like, by the end, he was like, this is cool, I wanna make movies like this from now on.- I also want him to make movies like this,'cause this is fantastic.- He was really great. I wonder if US Marshals was anything like this.- We'll find out in five years.- That.- Maybe.- If I'm still here. If what if we do that movie? 98's got some good movies. Movie like Crisis Season 3 episode 17.- Wow.- 17 already.- Can't believe it.- I can't believe it.- Time finds when you're having flies.(laughs)- We're cruising through 1993 movies. I'm JT here with Jeff, just a quick reminder for those of us who maybe knew, which is not me and Jeff, but maybe listening. We're rewatching movies that came out 30 years ago, and we're 17 episodes into our list of 1993 releases here with an absolute banger, the fugitive.- It is, dude. I mean, I remember it. I'm not saying I didn't remember it.- Yeah.- But it was really good still.- Yeah, dude, I like that.- Well, they did some, I love when I do like 20 year oral history, we talked to everybody who was in the movie and they did that for this. Two months ago, there was one in Rolling Stone, I read the whole thing and it's like, and they were talking about rewatching the movie because the director is rewatching it to remaster it for a digital 30 year release.- Nice.- And they were going like, not only did the movie, you talk about how well a movie aged, but this one really didn't age. If it released now, it would still be just as good.- Just as good. You fix a couple of things. You get rid of a couple of rotary phones, and some fax machines, and you're gold, dude. You get rid of some pay phones, and some fax machines, and you absolutely could put this out right in August of 2023. with Harrison Ford starring in it, and they would outperform Indiana Jones in the dialogue destiny.- I think it would too.- Which I-- - Which I--- But, which I-- - You know what? I gotta be honest, I think it's Tommy Lee that's, like Harrison Ford did a great job, but Tommy Lee Jones was killing it.- I know, man, he's so good. This is the best Tommy Lee Jones. And I think-- - Even better than--- From Minim Black?- Well, dude, I was gonna say, I think this Tommy Lee Jones, so he does under siege, and then he does this both with the same director, Eddie Davis. - Right. And I think the success of really this,'cause he wins the Oscar, is like,"Oh hey, I can just do that in all the movies. I can just be like, talk really fast, be really sarcastic, Tommy Lee Jones, and then everything will be great." So I think this informs that men in black, like, and all the stuff he does after this.- Yeah, and he's really, really good at that.- Dude, he's great at that.- Really good at it. The whole, dude, him and men in black, just,'cause he's like, not snarky, but just, Straight to the point and he's really witty and he's super fast. He's just super clean. He's like, listen, don't let anybody make fun of your punty too. He's just throwing stuff like that out the whole movie. He's like, God, that's good. Yeah, he is. He's also really, really quickly. Thank you guys for listening to The Main Feed, The Fugitive. We also do bonus movies over on Patreon where we're going through 1989 releases. We just released field of dreams and then we've also done Uncle Bach, Batman, Indiana Jones and the last crusade speaking of Harrison Ford. Nice. So thanks so much to everybody who's supporting on Patreon. If you want extra movies or if you want to support us, that's the way to do it. If you're not, then we got free movies coming to you right here in 1993. Moving in in '94, we just started looking at the '94 list. And holy hell, it's going to be also amazing. Yeah, dude, it's so hard to narrow it down. Like, we still have 93 movies that I don't think we're going to get to. I know, we're doing 26 or probably about 26, 27 movies a year every two weeks and every year we're going there's like three or four movies that we didn't get to do that I would have liked to have done. Yeah, maybe we can come up with something at the end of the year, lightning round or something. We've talked about doing some like lightning round stuff. Really I think the answer is the more support we get the more we go like,"Hey, let's make some extra stuff because we can pay people to help us with stuff." Yeah, that's the big thing. Yeah, that's the big thing. Yeah, man, so talk about why this movie was chosen. It's the number three movie of the year. It's fantastic. It was then it is still now. Do you consider this a thriller? Like I think so, right? Did you remember who done it and you remember how it ended or no? I didn't. I was saying like I kind of guessed it, but I didn't remember for sure. Like I think the twists still kind of worked for me. I was like, oh, it did. It worked for me. I kind of remembered the guy, you know, the his friend being actually the guy, but I forgot that it was like, oh, it's actually the pharmaceutical industry that put this whole thing together. I was like, damn, that's really prescient 30 years later. Now, the all-no pharmaceutical companies are evil as shit. Yeah, I remembered the one-armed man being the guy who did it, but he was like paid, but I couldn't remember how the drop came. And that's why I liked it. It still worked. Yeah, dude, absolutely. Well, let's give us a synopsis.- Yeah, this is A. Isenopsis, the fugitive in 1993. As a gripping thriller about Dr. Richard Kimball played by Harrison Ford, who was wrongfully convicted of his wife's murder. After escaping custody, he becomes a fugitive, in quotes, relentlessly pursued by US Marshall Samuel Girard, portrayed by Timely Jones. As Kimball searches for the real killer to clear his name, a high stakes game of cat and mouse unfolds, leading to intense action and suspense.- Yeah, do you think this is a thriller? Yeah, I did.'Cause again, I really thought something else, the whole time going in, the one I'm man did it. That's the thing I remembered from this, and I was like, yeah, I remember him. Let's get him. And then it wasn't him. I mean, it was him, but it wasn't him.- Yeah, he was the weapon. But, yeah, well, it's one thing I think is cool about this movie is it is a thriller. I mean, I have in my notes, this thing's basically a two hour chase scene, which is one of the reasons why it's so awesome. But it's also a mystery, during the chase, like that's so good.- It's like a mystery wrapped in a nigma wrapped in a question.- Yeah, it's exactly like that.$44 million budget grossed $368 million.- Jeez, they did all right.- They did pretty well. It's like an eight and a half or nine X multiplier.- That's not bad. That's not bad.- Yeah, they, third biggest movie of the year behind Jurassic Park, which is way out in front and then Mrs. Dow fire, which we will also do on this podcast in the fall.- Nice. And this came out August in August. So we're right in the we're right in the spot. We're dead on we're dead on the actual 30th anniversary That's pretty cool. Well the August release was one of the reasons why this movie was so hard to make because they didn't have much a Harrison Ford's time like they just they Worked starting to shoot at the end of the last year and they but they knew that they're August like wait They like we got Harrison Ford. He's the one of the biggest movie stars in the world We're releasing August 6th. We're gonna start promoting in February So even though we don't have a movie we're definitely going to be out by this point in time That's pretty bold considering they didn't have the script written yet. No, so that's everyone was like we were just like trying to jam through this thing. We had only so much time with Harrison Ford. We're filming in Chicago, we had to deal with the actual weather. But we knew we could not miss our day because Warner Bros. When movies, when studios released a big tent pole film, they like elbow everybody off of that date. Like, oh, fugitives out this weekend, we're going to do striking distance. We're going to push it a month because we don't want to compete. Wait, striking distance wasn't a ten pole movie striking distances the movie that knocked this movie out of the number one slot after you've been out for four weeks really? Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, so that wasn't like a that wasn't like a hypothetical that actually is what happened Bruce Willis's Striking distance took this movie as a number one number one spot. That is awesome And I still don't think I've seen it. I mean I felt like I've seen it. It had a lot of Jewish people in it right? Yeah, yeah Protected by Lee incomparable, obviously Yeah, I'm in Dude awards you you said it earlier for the Academy Awards a whole bunch of awards. Yeah, man Best supporting actor Tommy Lee Jones. He freaking killed it. Yeah. I got nominated for best picture best editing best score best sound best sound effects Like it was it got a gambit of a whole bunch of stuff nominated Like different random smaller awards. They they won a ton of those 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 A bunch of them are best supporting actor for time-ylee Jones Yeah, golden globe you won best performance by an actor in a supporting role like killed it Yeah, that's why and to be honest I think that's why when you continue going and you go with US marshals You don't bring back Harrison Ford. You don't need him. You just got time-ylee Jones You could do I feel confident they could make another one of those right now with time-ylee Jones I think if the sequel had been better they maybe would have made more Because it and we'll get into that so there are interesting stories about the sequel like what did it take five years like they They knew during the filming of this movie that there might be a sequel because I got some funny stories about that and Harrison For was saying like during the filming. He's like Like Joey pantoleono like Joey pants was like dude Joey pants you can't kill me off There might be a sequel and Harrison for like they're not gonna be a sequel and he's like why not?'cause I'm not gonna be in it. And Joey Pants just goes,"Well who cares?"We'll just get some other $20 million asshole." We'll chase him through the woods.(laughing) And Harrison Ford just like fell over laughing. Oh, freaking Joey Pants, I love him. They do him and Tommy Lee together. Yeah, killing it. Yeah, so I would have loved if they would have done a better job with the second one and they actually could have made.'Cause it's just, yeah, the Marshalls is just like an ensemble cast where they're all just clowning and pushing each other in the bushes, saying funny stuff. Yeah. They could have just kept plugging in leading men and chasing them and find with that who was in the second one Yeah, dude. I didn't think that one was bad. It's not bad. It had Iron Man in it too, right? Yeah I'm Robert Downey Jr That was like his Robert Downey Jr. was that was the first movie that kind of got him back into a big movie Nice. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, remember he breaks the sunglasses to get out of the thing. Yeah Oh, I want to watch that now You know, I would and five years it'll be on the podcast. I wait for it. I wait for it 2028 mark you calendars 2028 Jesus Yeah, dude sequels spin-offs also US marshals we use a Yeah, yeah, there's also a lady that rode a Paperback novel of the film using the thing that did really well better than they thought the book was gonna do Oh nice she used this script novelization of this movie of the movie nice of the script and then of course this movie is based on a TV show TV 60s that ran for four seasons and that TV show is itself based on a real story that happened to a doctor in the 50s in Cleveland who was a surgeon who was arrested and convicted for killing his wife and then after being in prison for 10 years, he got exonerated and released. Not just in time, 10 years. What do you do? Do they give a money when they release them and it's been 10 years? I don't know because this is in the just would have been in the 60s, so probably not.- And that's crazy. - And the really shitty thing is, after, so he lost his wife, he lost his reputation, he spent 10 years in prison, and then when he got out of prison, he died three years later.- So it's not for that guy, 'cause if you're still alive, he could be making future money.(laughing)- He's early good. I do have Leslie Nielsen in the parody film,"Rongfully Accused," that was heavily based on this movie.- Nice.- It's like a naked gun, but like, the fugitive.- I've never seen that, but I do love Leslie Nielsen.- Did it's way good. They also talk about Mission Impossible and Titanic and that one.- Yeah, yeah, yeah. Real quick, this series finale of the fugitive in 1967, the TV show was watched by 78 million people.- Holy hell, that's a lot.- Which is a ridiculous number of people to watch the TV show.- I mean, I remember this bit, like my grandpa and my dad talking about like.- Yeah.- I think that was a big TV show back then when this movie came out.- It was definitely big.- That's crazy.- That's awesome. 78 million is a lot.- Yeah.- How did they even do that back then?- What do you mean?- Nielsen ratings, you just had the little box on your TV and I think in the--- You watched what you watched, or you had to like fill out a poll.- I think in the 60s, there wasn't like a box. I think they actually called like they would do for political polls, like called you and went like,"What did you guys watch tonight?" I think they actually did my phone.- Oh my God, they would never, it'd be zero for everything if you called now. Nobody answers their phone. My phone rings and I'm like, oh, somebody got kidnapped. I don't know, I'm not answering that.- Yeah, I thought you were gonna say that'd be zero is because everyone's watching different stuff. It's like, I'm watching, I'm watching Blitz of the A. It's like, I'm watching something on Twitch. It's like, I'm on TikTok. No one's watching TV.- But see, like now, that's how they do it now, right? You can just tell what's been streamed so that--- Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how they do it now.- That's great. - 70 million.- Jesus. - Yeah, so much. Do you remember when and where you first saw this?- I do, I definitely do. This was in the Maltheodor in Hammond.'Cause I can remember saying, well yeah, we can go to Kukos. And my dad given me the, yeah, we have Kukos at home. Like he didn't, the canned response of, no, we have that at home. I also am that person who tries to guess what's gonna happen. And unfortunately for the people in the movies with me, I'm never, not never right, but very rarely right. And this was definitely one where I was like, I think the guy with the one arm did it. It's all at his fault. And my dad's going, I don't know, it might be somebody else. And I'm like, no, you're wrong. Like I can remember getting it wrong in the theater. So yeah, it was Maltheater.- Hammond.- Nice.- Yeah.- Shout out Chimmy Dogs from the original"Cooko's in Hammond."- Yeah.- Maybe with the originals, but I think they, the original for us.- They're original as far as I'm concerned. I don't know who else would have thought of that. No one else served tortillas with cheese meat and vegetables before them.(laughing) I think you're putting quotes around that word meat. It's doing a lot of heavy lifting. It's a hot dog. I'm positive that I rented this'cause I don't think there was enough, there's no reason I couldn't have watched this at 13. So I think that as soon as it came out on VHS, if it released in August and theaters, maybe Christmas it came out on VHS, I'm sure I rented it. Remember Blockbuster? Like they charged you extra money for the new releases? Like it costed another dollar and it was kind of kidding. I got it. - Yeah, I got it.- That's gonna be awesome.- That sucks really bad.- Speaking of which, did you hear Netflix is finally shutting down their DVD rental?- Yeah. - Mail to your house?- Yeah. - And finally shutting her down.- Yeah, pour a little bit out for my dad, homie. Who's still doing that?- Dude, there's apparently a lot of people,'cause they're all upset and they said, randomly they're gonna choose people to send 10 extra discs to that you just keep forever. Great.(laughs)- What do I even do with that hanging from my rearview mirror? Like I don't have anything to play a DVD anymore. You use it as coasters. I have no method of playing a DVD unless my PlayStation will play a DVD But it'll barely play PlayStation so I don't know if I can you can you do that thing where you put it on a Table and then cover it with that clear lacquer and then make a really cool 90s coffee table. Yeah, you probably could wait a wait a second Do your kids know what happens if you put a blank CD in the microwave? My kids do but that's only because they're my kids my students have no idea But we'll have to show them tomorrow I have a microwave at school. I can jump. Yes. All right. That's awesome. Okay. So how do you rate this? One to ten one to ten chimney dogs. No sevens. No sevens Dude, I gave it an eight and a half. Yeah great plot well acted Even though it like you said like we said it's build as a thriller like I don't feel like it's only a thriller Yeah, I thought it was funny. I thought it was I don't know, I just liked it. I didn't know where it was going originally, and I had a little trouble this time'cause it's been so long since I watched it. Like I forgot about the dude, the friend.- Yeah, I thought it was really smart, the twist in turns. I got eight out of 10. I actually thought about eight and a half, and I landed on eight. It's, dude, it's Slay Miserops. Like they were taught when they made this movie, before they even had a script, everyone was like, yeah, it's Slay Miserops. There's a wrongfully imprisoned hero chase by inspector and inspector Javier just there's no singing but otherwise it's it's lame as a rubs but it's just it's a two-hour chase movie with mystery mixed in Tommy Lee Jones is incredible Harrison Ford is Harrison Ford he's just always good but did it not feel like real though like it felt like I don't know man like it wasn't it didn't seem polished I don't know how to explain it like remember when it goes it's they like it's practical effects they're shooting on location there's no sets it's in Chicago.- Yeah, I think that's what's better.- I think because all the US marshals, like because they're struggling to get the thing scripted, anything, any dialogue that didn't directly have to do with the plot they could just make up. So all of the US marshals interactions, it's almost all improv. So it feels like a group of people who actually are working together. Because it's a group of actors who are working together making a dialogue.- That's what I was gonna say. Like when they're talking about stuff, the small things that they're throwing at each other? That's great, man.- Well, do think about when we did cadence and just all of the, all the time, we're just talking, like they're just talking. That's how they talk, and that's what the movie capture, and you're like, that's, you could never have written that.- Yeah.- I mean, someone maybe could have, but most people cannot write that.- Yeah, I mean, I mean, talking about like, small, like, what are you doing? I'm thinking, thank me a book of a coffee. Like, that kind of thing.- That kind of thing, that's them talking to each other.- That's great, man. That's so good. So yeah, eight and a half, I'd tend for you, eight for me.- Dude, it's great.- Yeah, yeah, really great. The music got a lot of love in the awards. And I actually, maybe just 'cause it was too loud when I was listening to it, but I was like, man, this music is, I wish it was down a little bit.- I don't really remember the music that much.- It got all kinds of awards and got an Academy Award nomination and the composer was like, was saying before the movie came out, I was like, I think I really phoned that in. I think I screwed it up, it's gonna be terrible.(laughing)- So everybody felt about this movie.- Yeah, everybody involved was like, we may never work again. I think that's gonna be horrible. And at the end, it's like, oh never mind. It was awesome, everyone loved it. We made quite a lot of money.- Oh man, that's great. That is really great.- Yeah, dude. All right, let's do the best.- Yeah, let's do the best, man. Best three scenes, what's your first?- My first one is when Harrison Ford is running away. I mean, he's running away the whole time, but like he's running away.- He's running away and ambulance and goes into a tunnel. And they bring the helicopter down outside of the tunnel. And he like sneaks away and they try to come from both sides and they meet in the middle all the US marshals and they're like, "What the hell, where is he?" He's like, "I didn't see him." And they realize that he went down into the water drainage. I think that whole scene is fantastic. He drops the Gerard drops his gun and then he frigging spoil there. He jumps over the edge.- Head first, by the way. What was that?- Yeah.- Is that the best way to do that?(laughing)- He does a full Peter Pan. Oh, dude, there's a slanted wall that he might not clear.- You think you should go down like a water slide.- Well, no, just go feet first to give yourself a chance. He's jumping head first, arms by his side. Maybe that's just how the mannequin fell, but like, he like jumps.- No, that's the effects in this movie are phenomenal. I don't know how that was accomplished, but I will say that was the one moment. That's the one thing in this movie that you go, like he definitely would have died. There's no chance he lives through that.- Yeah, headfirst is definitely the reason too. Like I don't know how shallow it is right there, but dude, he went headfirst and I was like,"What an idiot." But that whole interaction with him, that's got one of my lines in it that I didn't kill my wife, like that whole dude.- Yeah, it's great.- It's also got this harmin' 'cause there's so many good quotes just from the Marshalls talking to each other, Like that's the one where Frickin' Joey Pants is like, I mean, I just bought these shoes and they're like, shut up, get in there.- Yeah.(laughing)- Dude, what is not to love about Joey Pants? I can't wait.- When he is. - When he was--- Cap.(laughing)- Yeah, Marcus, I know what it's called. I'm the captain, I'm supposed to know what it's called. Oh God, what a genius.- Yeah, so that's fantastic. That's good. I got that one as well. The jump into the river, the, them. They're throwing out jargon half of it's made up, half of it's real. Like they see that he's going down the, that whatever drain and Tommy Lee just yells out, we gotta go for, like I don't think that's real. That's definitely the most martial. But that's what I'm saying. Like did Tommy Lee Jones just come up with that in the spot? Yeah, that seems like a Tommy Lee Jones thing. Yeah, there's some good oral histories about this. And I think there's some, 'cause it's 30 years later, everybody's going like, well he said he made that up, but I remember that was in the, Like one of the original screenwriters was like, I guess Tommy Leid said at some point that he wrote,"I want a hard target search for every doghouse outhouse." And he's like, he didn't write that. That was in my original draft before the production even started back in '92. Like it's tweaked slightly. But now everyone is kind of saying like,"Hey look, it was a team effort." We all, the writers wrote some stuff. And then on this shoot, we would kind of tweak things a little bit.- Yeah.- But it's hard to pin down who wrote what?- Right. The thing I was reading was like, it didn't sound more like, oh, Tommy Lee Jones was winging it while the camera was running. It was more of a, hey, let's write this together. Okay, I got it, and now let's turn the camera on and I got it. Like, he's making it up for some of it. Like, maybe we gotta go for is that, but I was reading like, okay, that morning, they got together and wrote like, all right, what are we gonna do today? What would be the next step? Where would he go?- Yeah, that's crazy. - Yeah, that's crazy. Like the actors and the director and the writer are all working together before the scene is shot to come up with it. Like they said that in that scene, right, he's, I didn't kill my wife in Tommy Lee Jones, I don't care. Yeah. That was the line that was in the script and Tommy Lee Jones is going like, I don't like that, I don't want to say that. It's like, let me try a bunch of different stuff in Harrison Ford's like, I'm like, not deep in freezing cold water. Let's just do the, I don't care. Right. But yeah, originally it was, that isn't my problem. and Tommy Lee Jones changed it to I don't care. That's how I read it.- Yeah, I didn't read that, but that may be what happened. But the point was like, Tommy Lee Jones was talking to, whatever the person from the US marshals that was advising on the movie was like, the thing you have to understand from the marshals' point of use is that we don't care if the person is guilty or innocent, we just have to hunt them down. So like that's what that supposed convey, that line is like, whether or not you're innocent is not my job, it's just you're running and my job is to bring you in. That's what we should say, I don't care. And that's how you can tell he's a good actor though too, is because it totally conveyed that whole thing.- Yeah.- But he didn't want to do it. He didn't want to say it and they were like, just try it and then it's like, all right, cool. Wrap, that's the one we're using. Let's all get out of the freezing cold water.- Yeah, let's go get more.- Yeah, apparently. And when Harrison Ford and Cila Warder in the limousine Harrison Ford's gone like, what should we do here? And she's like, shit, I don't know, didn't they already hand us words? Are we supposed to say those? And he's like, no, no, we'll do some better words.- We got new words.- New words. She's like, I was 20 when Star Wars came out. Like this guy, I had posters of him. I was on a show where we had to read all the words off the script that didn't know we could make up words.- Right.- But he's just like, let's just try some different words.- Yeah.- But they did a great job winging it.- They did a great job.- I'm sure writers would hate this podcast'cause I love when actors improv stuff and then we hear stories about it. Not that there aren't great scripted movies, but I always love the improv.- Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Couldn't you, didn't the idea though to make it look real like this? This was so, I don't know man, it was really good.>> That's one of the reasons why it's so real. And Tommy Lee Jones and Harrison Ford.>> Yeah, we're there.>> Harrison Ford, we talked about this. We did Indiana Jones and Alastair Seidon, Patreon. Do he's just so, it never seems like he's doing anything remarkable on screen, but he's also just, is like a really solid, grounding, believable presence.>> Yeah, except for any points.>> He just seems like, he does that point. That's really good. Like he's wagging his finger. He does that in a lot, like in a lot of his movies. Yeah, and he's really good at it. My first scene is when he's in a hospital, he's like stitching himself up. I just remember that. So he's got the beard. He's like, he's like pulled off his prison jump suit and he's like pulling a piece of glass out of his side stitching himself up and he's like, he sneaks into an old man's room, this patient. He's like in his bathroom, cutting his beard. Yeah. He steals the guy's freaking sandwich. And he's like, like, because he had an eaten, And so he was super, super hungry. And he was like shoveling the food in. I don't know why certain parts of this movie were burned in my brain, but him staring at the guy, hoping he doesn't wake up while he was eating the stuff that fell out of the sandwich is burned into my brain.- That's what I was saying.'Cause that's one of the things.- Small stuff.- He's like sitting on the, like at the guy's table, just like wolfing down, like, he looked like me at Thanksgiving when it's supposed to be lunch, but you don't actually eat until four o'clock.- Yeah.- And so like, am I suddenly biting my own fingers? And he was just like, he was getting after it. And then also he did that he did the shape like he's using the hospital scissors to cut his beard And then he uses this like regular razor to shave and every time I see someone shave in a movie I always think either I'm shaving wrong or they're shaving wrong Um, I don't shave anymore so I don't know. I just shaved it like underneath chin part But every time I see someone in movies do it They do it like they're trying to hurt themselves or like they're someone is like there's a timer on them But do wait well there was a timer on him. He was hurrying But do you use like a regular razor or use clippers? No, I do. Well, I use both. But I use a regular razor on my neckbeard underneath area. Ouch. Ouch. I would do-- when I shave, it's like warm water and shaving cream and like long straight strokes. And I see people in movies that are just like wailing on their own face with a razor blade on my dude. It seems like not-- If I was actually-- I would chase them. They were chasing me. I had to bury up and zip up his cardigan and get the hell out of there. My shaving acting would be so much more convincing than Harrison Ford's. All the other acting would be Harrison Ford by landslide, but that one bit if we did head to head So you think he was already shaved and he was just dragging it over the top of nothing No, he used the scissors to trim his beard real short And he shaved with the razor, but he's like did it like he was in a hurry and like he didn't care if he sliced his face up I was like coming from multiple directions like whipping himself in the face with the razor. I do I did hear that they had to like a reshoot something One of the guys They had to reshoot because the villain guy the actor got sick and so they had to recast him and he could Re-shoot his scene his friend. Yeah, yeah, that's what it was. It's a Harrison Where it was he had to wear a fake beard for those I thought he grew it back out and that's why I looked at it No, it was fake beard. That's awesome for that reshoot because they didn't have time for him to grow a beard back out You can't just strain really hard The funny thing is I Feel like you would appreciate this because this is the kind of I feel like this is how you would make a decision Is it Harrison Ford said that the reason he wanted to do the movies because he wanted to grow beard That's a good reason. Yeah, I want to wear a cardigan anybody had a movie where I can wear a cardigan Because studios are always like no, you're Harrison Ford dude. You're not growing a beard You have the most recognizable face in the world Yeah, we're fine. I have a beard paying for the face. I want to see the face and Yeah, yeah, dude my second one is also when he's in the hospital, but at a different time in different hospital The kid that is sitting in the hallway and he's pretending to be a janitor Yeah, and they're all like they're overst their understaffed and just full and they need to take the kid down to a certain thing Certain room and she asked that Julian more asked him to roll them down there and as he's rolling off He's look holding the yeah, I can raise her up to the light And then he makes the change That she was awesome That was like that like how he saved the kid Showed that he was a good like another not that you didn't think that but like it just shows that he was a good dude This whole time really humanized. Yeah, I like that Yeah, that's a great comment because that's a great scene and specifically that moment like he's he's infiltrated as a gender to look up stuff with the You know for people who have prosthetics and then Julian more their busy and she's like hey- Hey, janitor, take the role of this kid down to level four.- And he's a janitor.- He's like, whatever, I'm on it. Whatever I can do to help the team. But he's like, look at the kid's x-ray and he realizes that the orders that they're written on there are wrong and he's like, so he's like any elevator like, scratch and stuff out and right and over it. And he doesn't take the kid where she told him to. He takes it to surgery. And then say, hey, here's this thing. Here's the clipboard. You should probably do something with that.- Save the kid's life.- Yeah, and save the kid's life. It's, God, that's freaking great.- And then after she catches up with him and asks him, He's like, "Oh, it's just a hobby. I like looking at X-rays." Like, "What?" That didn't work at all. Well, Julian Moore was supposed to be in a lot more of this movie because-- Yeah, she was gonna be the love interest for something. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, she's like credited really prominently if she was supposed to be his love interest and the producer and the director were like,"Dude, the whole point of the movie is that he loves his wife. He didn't kill his wife. He's trying to prove he didn't kill his wife. We can't have him hooking up with someone while he's on the hunt to clear his name." But the studio's like, "No, he's got to make out with Julian Moore." So they shot a bunch of stuff and then they realized like, this is not gonna work, we can't do this.- That's unfortunate for them making out for nothing.- Yeah, it worked out just fine for both of them.- I could see that though, like you don't want him.- No, it would have been terrible.- That would have been terrible.- It's wife just died.- Well, as soon as I saw Julian Moore, I was like, oh, is he gonna hook up?'Cause it's like if you see a peripheral character, but it's an actor that you know, you go like, that's probably gonna be a love interest. But it's like, no, that doesn't, that would just make sense. He's freaking, the whole thing is how much he loves his wife and didn't kill his wife.- That just pictured you sitting on the couch watching the movie, out loud. Oh, are they gonna hook up? Like that's what I was thinking was gonna happen.- What's your next one?- So I had also have escaping through the tunnel.- Yeah.- I didn't kill my wife, I don't care. Jumps under the river, mannequin falls face first.- Right.- Dies.- And I have him in the hospital stitching himself up stealing that guy's lunch.- Right.- And then my third scene is right before the scene you were talking about. I just have it as the janitor infiltration mission.- Oh dude, I can't even do.- Like he, did he takes the someone's like key card, whatever thing, he like goes, takes a picture of himself and he like cuts it out with an exacto knife and tapes it to the badge.- By the way, what was that guy doing that he was able to steal his badge?- He was like in the locker room doing something.- Yeah, taking a shower at work. He deserves his ID taken. Who takes showers at work?- Dude, if you work at a hospital, you might wanna like scrub off some of the, you know, fecal matter before you go home.- Yeah, maybe. I can't just wash my hands and change my clothes. I gotta freaking take a shower at work.- He's got a worker.(laughing)- Maybe he needed to take, yeah, I don't know. But yeah, so he steals the guy, he steals the guy's card, modifies it, so it's got his name on it. And he wears his freaking jumpsuit and he goes in. And then he goes and looks up on the computer, like, hey, tell me all the people who had prosthetic arms on this arm and he's trying to find the one-arm man.- Right.- But dude, I just like, he cleans blinds exactly like I would do if that was my job. like he's on the computer and he's got one arm with a broom just like brushing it on the blinds, like hoping nobody notices.- Dude, that was great. How, 'cause he closed the blinds as she couldn't see.- Yeah.- And then like as he's like clicking on stuff, he's just banging the fucking blinds back and forth. So that way she doesn't know what's going on.- Yeah, that's what I'm saying.- That's awesome.- And then he has to print it out and he has to press F9 to print on the dot matrix printer.- Yeah, it makes that very recognizable dot matrix printer sound.- Yeah, so then he really starts hitting the blinds hard and it's going, "Wha-jah-nd!""Wha-jah-nd!"- As it's printing out.- And the tear's off, it's all perforated, and he stuffs it in his pocket.- Yeah.- I had that, and that's right before he goes up, and then Julianne Moore tells him to wheel the kid down to whatever. - Right, right.- Yeah, I had that one too.- I had that one too.- Nice.- That's weird that we both had that. I just, as soon as I saw the guy like,"Yeah, I'm gonna take a shower." I was like, "Ooh, still his idea. That guy's taking a shower at work. He's an idiot." There's a bunch of other scenes I could have picked, but just those are the ones that ended up on the list.- Those stood out to me too. But like you said, the whole thing is a long-ass chase movie.- Yeah.- So, dude, I liked when he made the phone call to the lawyer and then they're listening to it on tape. The US Marshals, they're trying to argue about the train sounds.- Yeah, who has an L?- Yeah. - I love any train, yeah.- And I also liked the very end when he goes to the ballroom while the guy's making a speech and he confronts him, like that was all, I could all up it on there, but--- Yeah, but yeah, you could front some with a pointing finger.- Yeah, it does the Harrison Ford finger wag. Let's do quotes, give me your first quote.- My first quote, we already talked about a bunch. I didn't kill my life, I don't care. That's the big one for me. That's the big one.- Yeah, it's not my favorite quote, but I did write it down to think it is the most recognizable quote from the movie.- Right, that's the one that everybody took away from it. Like back in the '90s, when people talked about fugitive, that's what they would say. That one and then the other one is the one that we already also already talked about that wasn't the trailer that I talked about last week when I teased this movie.- Yeah.- Our fugitive's been on the run for 90 minutes. average foot speed over uneven ground bar injuries four miles an hour. Like it was a radius of six miles.- Six miles.- What a one out of each and everyone to use. A hard target search for every gas station, residence warehouse, farmhouse, and house out outside out of the doghouse in that area. Check points go up at 15 miles. If fugitive's name is Dr. Richard Kimble, go get him.- Yeah, that's, I had that one also.- 'Cause I feel like that was parody to bunch. I feel like I had a mad magazine that they made fun of that and it was one. A cracked magazine. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Those, they parried it pretty hard too in that Lesley Nielsen movie. Really hard. What's, all right. So what's your other course? So those are my other two. My third one is when he first gets to that hospital where you're talking about where he's going to clip his beard and all that. He's been on the run for, you know, a couple hours and he shows up at an ambulance showing up and he notices that, like they couldn't get the gurney legs down and he comes over to help, get the gurney legs down and he realizes it was the guy that was in the bus, the sheriff's officer or whoever it was, that was watching them in the thing and he grabs the mask and puts it back over his mouth so he can't say, "Hey, that's the guy who escaped." And as they're rolling off, he's like, "Tell the attendant he has a puncture in the upper gastric area. And the other guy's like, how the hell could he tell that by looking at his face? I thought that was great. Like that was that's what about I thought about that quote too. That was fantastic. That's the one that I put as my third one. The other one I had was one that we already talked about was the Tommy Lee Jones and probably he's like, what are you doing? He's thinking, well, think me of a cup of coffee and a chocolate donut with some of those sprinkles on top. Yeah, dude, that's. God, Tommy Lee Jones is awesome. And the way he says he is.- I think he's a jerk in real life. Like, are you think he's like, he puts it all on.- I feel like, I feel like people probably think he's a jerk, but he probably does not think he's a jerk. He probably thinks he's telling jokes that no one gets, but everyone's like, "That guy's such a dick."(laughing)- Oh man, that hit kinda hard right there. And he know him pretty hard. Yeah, I don't know. I think he's pretty funny. I like him.- Dude, he's super funny. Yeah, those are my three quotes. Yeah, good good quotes. We had a lot of the same. That's all right. I know. It's hard to differentiate. It's all the best three characters, number one, Tommy Lee Jones. Tommy Lee Jones, yeah, I'll put that on there. Winds and Oscar for the role, has all the best dialogue. Just frickin' delivers it, like an absolute maniac. I mean, a lot of it's improv. I mean, him and his lines anyway. Him and Joey Pads going back and forth are killer, dude. Yeah. So funny. Well, and they talked about, 'cause they knew each other before the movie is like Tommy Lee said that Joey Pants is like,"Hey man, we're just like, let's have fun." If at any point during the filming of this movie, we look around and we're not having fun, let's stop and fix that. Like let's just have fun.- Yeah, Joey Pants apparently was giving an interview and said like, Tommy Lee Jones is like,"It's not like anybody's gonna win an award for this film." So like, let's just do it.- Yeah, Tommy Lee Jones literally said to him during the filming. He's like, "Nobody's winning an Oscar for this one." And like, let's just go to work. What an idiot and then he killed it. Yeah, maybe that's what it takes just Don't care so much that you just freaking kill yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. Just just don't rip it so hard just Just have a good time But the all the people who played the Marshall said it again that time we're talking about winning an Oscar Oh the Oscar right, right. I didn't mind you know, he was saying like you like you know, let's let's go out to dinner Let's let's have a fun time. Let's let's riff riff back and forth and like all like if they die the river green today why can't they die blue the other for 164 days like that's it in Prove yeah like don't miss the black on tail like are you Irish yeah stuff like that yeah dude that's great that's great dude you know what else I liked and I'm this might have been the script I don't know when he's time in Lee Jones thinks he recognizes Harrison Ford going down the stairs and he's like looking and he's trying to figure out if it's really him and he yells his first name what a- That's a freaking great idea.- Yeah.- Like yelling the person's name. I mean, I do that, but that's just'cause I can't remember people's names.- Yeah.- So I'm like, is that Kevin?- Kevin.- And if he turns around, I know it's him, but if it's not, then I know it's the wrong name and I gotta pick something else.- Yeah, I like how he did that.- That's a great idea. I'm a big fan of like, especially around the holidays and like around like school functions, like everyone, all the parents have to wear name tags'cause I'm like, like people just, like someone just came up to me in gymnastics and was like,"Hey man, how's it going?" Like I tell Wendy I said, "Yeah, totally man, I'm gonna do that." I was like, "Oh, I can't do that, what's..."(laughing) Hey, brown hair with the glasses told me to tell you hi. And then I was gonna ask him, and I'm like, "Hey, do you know somebody?" He's like a, he's like, he's tall, what's kind of tall. We're teachers. - We're teachers.- Some of the times. - Some of the times. And it turned out that it's a guy that every time I've been him has had a big bushy mustache and he shaved it and that's why I didn't recognize him. But he did a few walk-of-ones though, did all right.- Yeah, all right.- Did okay.- Dude, another thing I wanted to mention about that whole scene, I forgot, the bullets into the bulletproof glass, those were wax bullets being fired into that bulletproof glass. At the same time, Tommy Lee Jones was firing his gun. And Tommy Lee Jones didn't want to, he's like, "I'm, my character wouldn't put all of these people in jeopardy, I'm not gonna open fire." They're like, "Just do it, it's gonna be awesome. We're gonna have a great camera angle where the bullet is gonna hit right where Harrison towards faces to really sell the moment'cause his foot, and I think it worked really well.- Yeah, I agree with him. He wouldn't have opened fire.- Yeah, Tommy Lee Jones was going like,'cause he was like about to run out into a crowd of people. He's like, "There's no way a US Marshal would just shoot"a 45 into a crowd of people while he was chasing someone." And they're like, "I know, but also it's a movie"and you have to."(laughing) Also, do it.- Yeah. Dude, he's great. He, we talked about this and we didn't under siege last year, this is the same director, and Tommy Lee Jones is obviously in that movie, and he's asking the director on the set. He's like, "Oh, what are you working on next?" He's like, "I'm trying to get this fugitive movie,"trying to get this, like, I'm hoping to get this job." And then Tommy Lee Jones reads a script, and he's like, "That sounds awesome, I want to do that too."- Two wants some of that, yeah, yeah.- And really the director, Andy Davis got got the job because of how well under siege did once it came out. Like after the premiere and everyone was like,"Hey, this movie's actually pretty good,"it's gonna make some money."- Right.- Then he got offered the job.- Yeah, yeah.- And Harrison Ford was like, "I can grow a beard, count me in."- What about the sweater? I can wear the sweater, right?- Can I wear a sweater?- Yeah.- I'll put you next character.- My next dude, Harrison Ford.- Yeah, it's Harrison Ford.- He's awesome.- He's awesome.- And dude, no one pops a blazer collar like Harrison Ford. I never see him in a movie where in a blazer where he doesn't find a way to pop the collar.- That's because it looks really cool on Harrison Ford.- It looks very less cool on me.- I was gonna say I'm glad you said on Harrison Ford'cause every time I wear a blazer, I'm like, "Maybe I try to pop the collar on me."- No, that looks terrible.(laughing) Turns out I'm not Harrison Ford and this didn't work at all.- Yeah, dude, I don't look every time. This is my question. How come, and maybe it's because they don't buy their stuff right off the rack and it's built for them? But every time I'm like,- He's not showing it in the dealers.- I'm gonna buy that from Coles and I'm gonna look like I'm in the movie and I don't look like I'm in the movie at all. I just look like I'm wearing my little brothers clothes. And I don't like that. How do they, is that what it is? I just make them specifically for them.- Yeah, dude, I guess also Harrison Ford's like 80 now and still has a six pack, so I think that probably helps.- I have a six pack in there somewhere. Dude, he was really good in the interrogation scene and then I started reading about it. He had no idea what the questions were gonna be. So like all of those were like, they just said like pretend you're him and how would you answer these questions. Yeah, that's awesome. That's a great way to do that. I know that studios don't want to make movies this way because not having a script is obviously concerning when you're shooting a movie, but then sometimes you get, if you have good actors and good directors and good editors, you can get such good stuff by going like, okay, you don't have to act because you actually are surprised by the question and you're just gonna answer as your character.- Right, and that's dude, I ended up at the finger point again in the friggin' bloody t-shirt and it was, like I don't know why, that thing right there burned in my head like him going, I didn't kill my, like I had to, I really love it. Also, he rocked the all black case Swiss like he was a referee.- Did he get it? - Almost the whole time.- He had his referees shoes on.- Yeah, he was pulling it off though. Did you notice that he was limping through the whole movie?- Yeah. - 'Cause he actually heard himself.- Yeah, and didn't want to get surgery'cause he's like, my character would have a limp. What an idiot, that's awesome.- I think I got my character's motivation.- They got my character's motivation if I were on fire.- I get it. - I get it.- Beard though, right? Harrison Ford's great.- Third character.- Joey Pants for me.- Yes, obviously.- Yeah, Joey Pants.- It's not a formal, but he's definitely and the other, in the oral history, the other people, the other parts of the marshals, there's like four or five of them, they're going like, Joey Pants just would find a way to get into every single shot. He just figured out that if he always stood right next to Tommy Lee, he was gonna be in a lot of the movie. And then because we were like improvving a lot of the dialogue, he could just throw stuff out there and like he just basically forced his way into a lot this movie by always standing next to Tommy Lee Jones.- Yeah, that's genius. When I can remember-- - I'm just totally genius.- Dude, when I used to be sick, I would lay on the couch and watch movies, but I would feel bad and not wanna get up and change the DVD. So then I would just watch the whole thing again with the commentary on. Yeah, and I can remember watching Bad Boyz, the commentary, and Michael Bay being so angry, because Joey Pants would do this thing where he's like, he would block out the camera with his back. He's like, you gotta rotate the camera, and Joey Pantes' face is gonna be in the scene because he's purposely standing like an idiot to get in the scene. Dude, that's, he does that a lot apparently, and that's awesome.- Dude, that's the mark of an experienced actor who's never led a movie. It's like, I'm gonna be in a lot of this because that means I get more money.- Yeah, he freaking killed it though. Why? I don't know, could he be a leading man? Probably not, huh?- Probably not. I mean, he's certainly got the talent for it, but it's just not the type of person you put Like even if you go like, hey, there's a new Netflix show it's starring Joey Pants. It's like, all right. I mean, I guess if that's awesome, I'll check it out, but I'm not turning it down to see what he's up to. But every time I see him, I'm like, oh, frickin' great, I love Joey Pants.- Yeah, we're all going in before you got here.(laughing)- Yeah, he's great.- Like his whole career is like comic relief character actor, like third or fourth male lead, but he's so good in that spot, it's great.- Yeah, he is, he is really good. Dude, he's just your like JJ Redic, like catching shoot three-point guy. He doesn't get paid a lot. He's like your six or seventh man, but he's just in there just crushing it.- He is definitely crushing it.- Wait, I got a Joey Pant's story in his words from the oral history about the very, one of the very last scenes they're like fighting in the laundromat of the hotel and the basement. And like, and the villain guy, like takes a big steel i-beam and like swings it on a track. And it hits Joey Pant's character right in the head. And so Joey Pantley owns this. I go running to Andy's trailer, the director. And he's like, Andy, what the f? He's like, you can't kill me. And he goes, why? And I go, what if there's a sequel? He goes, all right, all right, we won't kill you. We won't kill you. And Joey Pant says, we shot it before CGI, so I'm thinking, I'm going to make it so that they can't make me dead. And so once the thing hits me in the head, I start moaning and making a lot of noise on the ground so that they can never make it look like I'm dead. And apparently--- And I don't know, but the director goes cut. And Joey Pants was like, all of a sudden, I see a pair of blue jeans walk up to me and I look the leg up and it's Harrison Ford and he's like, you should be dead. And I say, what if there's a sequel, Harrison? And then Harrison laughs and he says,"Listen, there's not gonna be any sequel'cause I won't be in it." And then Joey Pants goes, "Well, FU, who needs you? We'll just chase another $20 million"assault through the woods."- That's right.- And then Harrison Ford just falls down laughing. And then like he gets reeled out of the place.- Dude, he begs the director.- Yeah, he begs the director. Like put in a scene and he'd be going and doing ambulance. Like so that everyone knows.- And both Harrison Ford and Timerley Johnson. It's like we don't need, can you just do that after we leave? Like don't, I don't wanna be part of that. They were all separate.'Cause they didn't know that.- Oh God, I love that this guy's, the whole movie, he's just like throwing out quips. He's always like grabbing on to Tommy Lee Jones as a elbow, like a toddler, just trying to make sure he's right there. And then at the end when he takes the record--- Me too, right?- Yeah, me too. I'm interested in this. And then he takes a freaking steal, I beam to the head, but he's like, moanin' and riven around, so everyone knows he's alive. And then they do the big white wrap of stuff around his head.- That's freaking great.- That's amazing. All right, same characters for everybody. Writer directors, stuff.- Yeah, Andrew Davis is the guy who did it.- Andrew Davis said, "Under siege."- Yeah. That's awesome. I don't really know any, I know chain reaction after that with Morgan Freeman and what's his name?- Keanu.- Viacondias.- Yeah, viacondias. And I've seen collateral damage with what you call it.- Collateral damage.- I don't know any of the other ones. Oh, holes, I never saw holes. I've never seen that.- I didn't see that.- I missed it. But what about before that? Above the law was a cigar movie. There's a joint Norse movie.- You did a couple of, he was doing action, like kind of low rent, like B-action movies with Chuck Norris and Steven Seagal. And then under siege takes off and it's a huge movie in '92 and then they go, the studio goes, "Well, he probably can do another action movie. They give him the fugitive. That's also a huge movie." And then his next movie, Steel Big Steel Little in 1995, starring Andy Garcia and Joey Pants. Joey Pants, a Leon. He takes two years off and he does a comedy and then doesn't really do well. And then he does chain reaction, which also doesn't do well. And then I think that's kind of it for him.- Yeah.- He's got credits on his Wikipedia page that I would kill to have, but like this movie right now is the peak of his directorial career from like commercial and like awards success.- Yeah, yeah. What about the writers? There's Jeb Stewart.- Yeah, Jeb Stewart.- So Jeb Stewart was the writer that was on the set. So the original script, the original adaptation guy named David. I never know how to pronounce this last name. T-W-O-O-H-Y. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I would say. He does the original adaptation. They're trying to get this movie made for 10 years. So he's the one who takes the, he watches all the episodes of the Fusion TV show, all 60, whatever, and then tries to make it make it fit into a feature film. And they go like, "Hey, great. Thanks for that. Here's your money. Here's your credit. Go home. We're going to hand it off to a bunch of other writers." And then And then when they go to actually start production, Jeb Stewart, who wrote "Dihard" is the guy actually on the set. So he's the guy like, tomorrow we shoot the, he's calling him from the pay phone and he's in underneath the L. I got to write that scene tonight. He's doing that. - Right, right.- But then everyone's like, everyone is working on the producer and the director and the actors is like, we're about to shoot the scene. You're gonna say this and then I'll say whatever back.- That's ridiculous that that's how they did it though.- I know. That's crazy. - But I love that.- Yeah, yeah. There was another, there was something else, the Switchback movie. It had Danny Glover, and I used to love that movie. And then I watched it, it had Jared Leto in it, and that was one of the ones that Jebs Stewart wrote. Dennis Quaid, I went back and watched it, it is God awful.- Yeah, but that's the first one he directed.- Yeah.- I don't know, I'm just personally not that.- Yeah, he directed it.- And that's all I have for the writers and the directors. main thing is this thing had to come together so fast and they were kind of making it up on the fly and it just is one of those times that it worked out. It definitely worked out. I have some stuff about the extra the other actors that were in this that we haven't talked about yet just because there was so many random good people in this. Like did you see who the the guard was and the prison guard that lived through the train rack? Yeah, that was from office space.- Yeah, Richard Riley, who's placed Tom Smakowski.- I deal with the goddamn customers so the engineers don't have to. My people person, I have people skills.- Yeah, I freaking love that dude. He's awesome. He's awesome.- And he's like making up a story, he's making up a story because actually it was Harrison Ford that saved his partner and they're like, you're kind of a hero. And he's like, well, you know, he's my partner who's done the same for me.(laughing)- That guy is fantastic. I do, I noticed that janitor was on the train.- Yep, Neil Flynn.- Janet was on the train.- Yeah, Janet from Scrubs, Neil Flynn was on the train.- Did you see who one of the reporters was when he was asking about the order stuff was happening? That was the reporter was the psychiatrist from Groundhog's Day.- Nice.- Groundhog Day that has, I have an alcoholic now, that guy. And then the guy bones that gave him the blood samples, that was from Groundhog Day. Also, he was the sweet, for Mooth on the rocks, he was the bartender.- The bartender?- Yeah, I recognize that guy. I forgot to look up his name.- Yeah, yeah.- And then also Jane Lynch is in this.- Jane Lynch.- She's like working on the lab doing some more draw stuff.- Killing it.- Killing it.- I love her. Julia Moore, we talked about. Dude, I found one that I thought, I was actually watching the credits'cause I'll watch the credits, see if there's anybody I recognize. And... That's all good. I think I was just starting beeping. I think they're going to die. I don't want to.(clipper buzzing) What the fuck, man? Mother fuck.(sighs)(sighs)- All right, I don't know if the, I don't think they're gonna die 'cause they're plugged in, but they're beeping like they're gonna die. I've never heard that sound before. And they were charged the whole time, so I don't know what happened, sorry.- Yeah, that's all good, dude. Let's ship I into it.- Yeah.- So the one guy I looked up,'cause I was watching the credits, and I just saw, I was like, oh, I'm gonna look that up. And it was his attorney, Richard Kimbles attorney was a guy named Dick Qsac and I was a Qsac. They filmed this in Chicago. Guess who that is? No idea. That is an actor, Richard Dick Qsac, who is the father of three actors named John Joan and God Qsac. Bless, that's awesome. Yeah. I had no idea that that was his or dead an actor or he just happened to be in that. Yeah, he's an actor. He didn't do a lot of stuff. Right. But he's an actor. He's got some credits and I looked him up and I was like,"Yeah, he did some stuff." And that's like freaking junk, QSAC. But, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But still, that's pretty awesome.- Yeah. Yeah.- I had no idea.- How did that guy look familiar to you?- He didn't look familiar to me at all. I was watching the credits and it's so funny, but QSAC, and I was like,"The film is in Chicago. I'm gonna go look up and just see if he's related."- I am.- And it's his dad.- Dude, junk, it's like that.- The credits were weird for me. Like, over the first 15 minutes of the film, they start and then after like two minutes, they stopped for a bit. And then as soon as he gets back, like he's chained and getting on the bus, that's a credit start again. And I thought that was weird, but I read about that too, because they, in the initial cut of the movie, it was like a half an hour longer, and there was 30 minutes of like backstory before he ever started like being a fugitive. And the editors were going like,"Man, we can't have 30 minutes, but it's called the fugitive. It can't be 30 minutes of him not being a fugitive." Like it was a whole like day in the life. Like he went to a fashion show and he was going to dinner and he was like, and so they decided to do the murder of his wife as flashback in the credits.- That was the click.- They did it like in black and white. So I think that was maybe why the credits were a little chopped up.- I liked the black and white idea too, because that made the blood not look as bad.- That's what they said there. It was really gruesome the scenes of her being murdered. So it was like we did black and white, so it kind of wasn't so in your face.- Yeah, that's really good.- That's really interesting.- That's really interesting. That's good stuff.- The only other bonus good that I have was that we should say something about the train wreck sequence. Did you look up any of the stuff about that?- Well, I saw that they actually did it.- Yeah, they used a real train and just to do it one time cost over a million dollars. And so they knew they were only going to be able to do it once. I mean, it's a practical sequence featuring an actual train crashing into a bus and catching on fires. They're like, "Send up the cameras, 'cause we gotta get this."- Gotta get it on the first try.- Yeah, no, it's still sitting there. They found like an abandoned section of train track and we'll just ram this stuff into each other and then it'll explode.- That's freaking cool. How do you even get the train on that part of the track?- I don't know, I guess you probably can put it on a truck and haul it over there, but they--- That's crazy.- No wonder-- - There's a million dollars.- The effects guys were saying, I watched one making a thing on the train wreck and they were like, they're like, to get the actual train and then to wreck it, like if the train doesn't run, which is when they had to push it from behind, So the train is cheaper than building the miniature of the train would be.- That's crazy.- Like actually buying the train is like sweet, that's awesome.- That's crazy.- And it's one of the things the director was saying, like if you did the movie now, you'd do all that stuff in CGI. And as much as it was expensive to have a million dollar of train wreck, it would cost way more to do it digitally.- Yeah.- 'Cause you'd have like 300 people working on it.- God, that's, who's the guy who uses all the miniatures now? Oh, Wes Anderson uses a lot of miniatures.- Yeah, he did a train minister and his new one. And that shit looks super expensive, so I don't know how the actual train could be cheaper. That's crazy.- Well, I think that's one of the things it's weird to me is that this movie's, they made it for $44 million, obviously 30 years ago, but still, even if we account for inflation and we go, it would cost $90 million now, there's no way you could do this for $90 million now.- No.- Why is that?- Because I think because they shot on location and they use practical effects, and so they have to figure out. So I read that he just asked the mayor of Chicago,"Hey, can we film during the parade?"- Yeah, and they just shot during the actual parade. Like they didn't get a minute.- They did get a steady cam guy walking through the parade following Harrison Ford.- Yeah, and they didn't give him direction. They just said, "Hey, you're fugitive, you're chasing them ready, go."- Yeah.- So that was like their real reactions. That's crazy.- It's crazy.- Well, I, damn it, I lost the note that I had. There was another movie that was filming during that same parade. And so they had to like block out like, we're on this block, you guys are on this block. Don't shoot towards us because we don't wanna see your people. And that's not--- That's not-- - We lost what movie it was. That's awesome. Yeah. He did, like as soon as he grabbed that hat from the trash though, he like blended right in.- Yeah, and I think face, I saw somewhere, I don't know if it's true enough, but I saw that that was an improv that Harrison Ford just saw that hat, grabbed it out of a trash can, popped it on and was like, good to go.- God. freaking staple it to his head like Indiana Jones.(laughing)- Yeah, that's the last thing I got for the best. I wanna make sure we talk about how, I mean, that's, I think is probably the best train wreck accident.- Absolutely.- Like ever caught on film.- Yeah, and the Harrison Ford jumping, I know that you could tell that was like imposed over the top of it, but like.- Yeah, like a composite.- I still thought it looked pretty good.- Yeah, it looked great. And that's an iconic shot, too.- Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is. Yeah, I don't have any other good. not any other good that we want to talk about.- Yeah, that's all the best. Let's go to the worst. I didn't have a lot of worst, man. The only thing I had was, I thought it was weird, like right after you're saying like, oh, he's got a puncture wound in his upper chest. And I was like, how can you tell that from looking at his face?- Yeah.- But he's like, he's kind of home free and he decides to steal an ambulance, which is like the least and can speak he was vehicle ever made. Like I didn't understand why he did that.'Cause he's such a smart guy.- But does he know how to like, hotwire a car? I don't, I would have to steal something. He said in Chicago, you don't need a car. You could just walk and then get on the train.- Wait, was he in Chicago there? He wasn't in Chicago there. He was trying to get to Chicago, right?- Yeah, I don't know, maybe so. Maybe he wasn't in Chicago area.- I don't know.- But I was trying to figure out why he was stealing the ambulance.- Yeah, maybe the guy, maybe he knew the guard recognized him and he thought he needed to get away from it really fast.- Fast, right.- If you're a fugitive and you're stealing a car, and ambulance is one of the worst ones to steal.- Yeah, you got to steal a freaking camera or something.- Steala freakin' brown for Taurus.- Right, you'd be fine.- Blend right in. Yeah, the worst that I had, the Polish guy that gives up Kimball, that he was standing in his mom's basement or whatever.- Right.- He was super dirty.- I think he was probably supposed to, but he was gross.- That was, he was very well cast'cause I could tell, as soon as he appeared on screen as like that guy's creepy as hell.- Yeah, he definitely does his little girls. Also for worst effects, he gets in the elevator presses 24 but 25 lit up and that bothered me but you know whatever. That's a great catch. I definitely missed that. It's totally fine. The other bonus bad that I had was she was throwing rose petals all on the floor. Yeah. And I would be the person that would have to clean that up. So I definitely don't want rose petals on the floor. I'm no good afterwards. I'm like a bear that got shot with a trink. So I am not like, hey, let's go sweep up the petals. Like I'm out. So I understand when a guy's gonna throw down some rose petals to try to get his wife in the mood But it's when it's a woman doing it to a man. I'm just saying as a man. That's not necessary. Yeah, throw some chicken wings or something Yeah, you just say like hey, do you want to go to the bedroom and then like waggle one eyebrow? I'm like, oh sweet. It's on I don't need any rose petals. No rose petals or candles. Maybe some music Some music Dude, one more thing. Are all parades that aren't money gross, suck so bad? Yeah, I think they're mostly like, here comes the, you know, the Frickin' Rotary Club. They're all gonna wave at you. Yeah, no one throws anything. No one's throwing. Yeah, what is over that? I mean, I don't even like catching stuff. But if I'm gonna go, I want them to at least try to get me to catch stuff. I don't know. I didn't like parades. Worst effects? I didn't have, I thought the effects and this movie were incredible.- Yeah, they really were.- They really were. I enjoyed it a lot.- Oh, thank you.- Dude, Fax machines, pay phones,- Benacca sprays.- But that was the Benacca.- Benacca.- Yeah.- And also when they were trying to isolate the sound from the L and he had a huge, like, real, real tape machine. He was like, just in the,- Yeah, he's not just at works, by the way, but he was like, he was like trying to do some EQ stuff so you could only hear the background voice.- But that's how you know, Deputy US Marshal Sam, Samuel Gerard has no idea how it works. Because he's just like, can you isolate that for me? And he's like, yeah, I guess so.- He's like, can you zoom in and enhance?- And it's!- Political and correctness. I actually like that they made a point to make sure that the US marshals had like people who look like older people and like one of them and also people in color.- Yeah.- Supposed to be a diverse crowd. They're saying like, the studio was like, dude, just give him a sidekick. Tommy Lee and Joey Pants, it's all we need. And it's like, no, no, it's gotta be a group from working together as a team, that's the whole thing that they're doing.- I like how, too, when they were undercover and they were walking and they were revealing each other's US martial sign, how they built into their undercover clothes and they're like homeless outfits and they're street sweeper outfits, that was awesome. That's a great touch.- Yeah.- Cameo's we kinda talked about though, huh?- Yeah, I think we covered five questions, is it okay for kids?- I say 10, 10 above. The blood in the beginning is, well, which call it's a black and white. So I think it's all right. Yeah. I mean, Jake watched this with you? Uh, no, nobody watched it with me. But like, I think he could have watched it and been okay. Right. I don't know if it would have kept his interest, but I think it'd be okay. Yeah, yeah. Um, would this movie get made if it were pitched now? Honestly, man, I wouldn't, I don't think I'd be excited if they said they were going to reboot this, but you absolutely could. The story still works and it would still be awesome. What if you did like another, not the fugitive, but like you just did like, hey, we're going to make another US Marshals. Tamely Jones unfortunately still has to work.- Dude, I don't think the US Marshals would be excited about a US Marshals sequel. I think if you said like we're gonna reboot the future, probably some people would be like hell yeah. But it's the same thing, right?- It is, but one of those movies was amazing and one of those movies was shitty. I think it's a difference.- Oh man, now I gotta go back and watch the US Marshals'cause I don't remember it being shitty.- I'm not saying I thought it was shitty, but I'm saying like this one was, this one made almost $400 million and US Marshals made $100 million.- That's a big difference when you make movies for money.- Yeah, yeah, yeah.- But yeah, so I think this should, I think this should absolutely get made. It seems like, dude, we should definitely, if we're doing white men can't jump again, we should definitely do this again.- Agreed, agreed. TV or movie?- Well, it's been both and it worked as both, but I kinda like the movie.- Yeah, movie 'cause it was tight and done, and really quickly.- Yeah, I liked it.- Yeah, the TV show was like a quantum leap thing, where it's like every week, he's in a different town, solving a different problem. That's kind of fun, but I don't know if a TV show like that would work as well anymore. Yeah, dude, even like the more recent ones like burn notice, every time it's like, well, we can give you this information, but all you got to do is help my friend first. And then he has to help the friend for the whole episode. It's super formulaic, even though it can be fun. It's like, yeah, it's all they're all doing the same thing. That's why I want movie. Did you recast it? Dude, I was, I was thinking of it, but I was like, well, we already did it. I'm like, I was trying to think I'm like, I want to, want to uh... not white actor in the lead but i'm like there i no so little about people who are acting now like yeah spikle be jordan have had a put him in every single thing which is happening in real life like three black friends uh... dude i i went uh... i have like uh... i don't know seven people that are he cast here you ready for him yet you dr. Richard kimball sasha barren koan in his first role that's not goofy'cause he could really, I think he could do serious and I think he would kill at it.- Robin Williams went serious.- Yeah, well, I would have not thought of it if you'd not said that, but now that you did say that makes me think that, 'cause I just saw Oppenheimer again today at Remy Malik could be awesome at that.- Yeah, he's way good at everything.- Yeah, that is really good.- In Oppenheimer where he's just like a background character but carrying the whole thing, that is awesome.- Speaking of which, Oppenheimer and 70 millimeter IMAX is fan tabulous.- Yeah, I bet it was. All right, Sam Gerard played by Dwayne the Johnson Rock.'Cause I feel like he can be sarcastic.'Cause I feel like he's funny and he would be the guy that everybody comes to see the movie for.- Yeah, he's got good comic timing but I don't think he can be, if you have improv a lot of stuff, I don't think it.- He can't be timing the Jones.- Yeah, he got a hand in my tight script.- Right, yeah.- But if you can deliver a funny line.- Speaking of delivering funny lines, his sidekick, Cosmo Rimfrow, played by Joel McHale. I don't know, I just really like that guy.- Dude, Joel McHale is awesome.- Yeah, I can't believe you're not gonna have Kevin Hart be a sidekick though.- Give me a second.- No, I had Kevin Hart in there, but I changed it'cause I didn't want Kevin Hart in there'cause they're in all the movies together.- I know. All right, the bad guy that's, the one our man is played by Jared Leto,'cause he's freaky and that guy was freaky.- Yeah, I would 100% believe Jared Leto going to get a perm and being as creepy as that guy wearing a trench coat.- Yeah, dude, I'm convinced that, well, I think that's out there probably that he is actually super creepy, but it's not surprising to me at all.- Yeah, Dr. Charles Nichols, who is Dr. Richard Kimball's friend, is played by Chris Tucker.'Cause he played a really good, funny, but also kind of serious in air. the Michael Jordan movie now.- Okay, so good. I liked it. Bobby Biggs, the other US Marshall, is played by Craig Robinson, 'cause he's hysterical. Noah, the guy with the ponytail, is now a girl. It's Angie Harmon. She's older and she's about ready to retire. And the female, the female deputy is played by Jada Pinkett Smith.- Nice, seems like that cast is way older than this cast, but I guess maybe not.- No, they are, they are. All of those people are in their 40s and 50s because I, like, you can tell how old Joey Pances in this movie? Yeah. He's already balding, like I-- Yeah, he's definitely wearing a hair piece. He could be any age, right? I like how in your recasting that Marshalls are so old that they're not going to be able to run after people. They're just going to have to kind of walk fast. Like, hold on a second. I can't-- They don't need a tweaky hamstring. They don't have to run after people. Yeah, they're good. I don't know. I just started with the age and then I just went from there and I just kind of kept it all all older This would be a fun movie to recast honestly because the US like you get you plug in whoever For the Harrison Ford part and he any kind of leading man and then the marshals is like who's a group of five people of Different ages and genders and colors that and races that looks like they would be really funny hanging out in a room together Right and I just off you go could you not see Sasha Baron Cohen just Changing into all the disguises that he uses for his other shows. Like that would be great. I actually would really like to see Sasha Barnko and do a real like I do like a safty brothers like Adam Sandler movie where he's actually acting and he's not just playing a character because I think he'd be good at that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think so too. But that's all I got. Nice. That's awesome. Can you still watch and enjoy this in 2023? Yeah, it was killer. It's really like still is really good. I watched it at home and then when I was doing my notes, I did it again at school. During a break with the speakers turned up really loud. It was great. Yeah. Yeah, highly recommend it's streaming on, um, don't say. Oh, no, it's on the app formerly known as HBO Max. It's now just, it's just Max. I thought for sure it was going to be on peacock and we're not happy. You're excitedly. Unfortunately for everyone involved. Yeah. Now it happens. Yeah. Yeah, man. What's the next episode?- Next episode. - Next episode.- For Love or Money.- Oh man.- Michael J. Fox.- God bless, I can't wait.- I feel like I watched that in the last five years, but I'm excited to watch it again.- I definitely did not. And I can't wait to watch it again.- I think I went through the like 90s Michael J. Fox movies. Probably it was probably more than five years ago, but I watched freaking Life with Mikey and For Love or Money and all that stuff.- This, yeah, I can't wait for this one.- This is great. And that's episode 18. Can you believe it? 18? It's just happening so fast. So, I think we're up so fast. Thank you guys for listening. Feel free to check out bonus movies on Patreon. Feel the dreams just came out. Next up on Patreon will be WinHerryMet Sally. And then we'll be back here in the main feed in two weeks with For Love or Money and Viacondios. Viacondios! Thanks for listening to Movie Life Crisis. Please subscribe, rate, and review, and remember, don't drive anger.[Music]