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Welcome to Movie Life Crisis. Join us as we watch the best movies from 30 years ago.Coming September 24th, they've come from different worlds to pursue the same dream.This is the story of what it takes.They're talking about how good I am under pressure.We never mention this thing to fight the pressure.*Screams*That's all you care about in this program!*Screams*Damn program!Face the pain!And survive!*Screams*The program...Rated R!*Gasps*Wait, are we sure that's the trailer for the right movie?Uh, yeah, it didn't say anything about football, did it?Did it say football?*Laughs*It didn't have a single recognizable line or any dialogue from any of the big name actors.I was like, "Holy shit, is there they making a new one?"I've never...- I heard a grab that they come from different worlds to Disney+.Arnold to Stortient is.(screams)- Little tortilla.- Get down again.- Movie Life Crisis season three, episode 15.- 15, I can't put, dude, episode 15 already.- I think we're at like 60 plus episodes in total,because that's a whole lot.- A lot of content.- I don't like the word content, but yeah.I know you love one.I know you love my side content.Pumping out content for people.Coming right to your phones every two weeks,unless you're on Patreon and you're on Extra Stuff.Yeah, tell 'em about the Extra Stuff.Well, we just released our first Patreon requested movie,which is 1994's "Fear of a Black Hat,"the spinal tap style mockumentary about early '90s hip-hop.Just so weird and so dumb and so funny.- Those shoot, do you see the whites of their eyes?- Whose eyes?(laughing)- Yeah, thanks to Sean for that one.He showed us a...- Yeah, shout out to Sean, Jesus, that movie's funny.Don't listen to that if you care about swearing'cause we didn't edit out the F-words,and there's about a thousand.- A thousand million.Yeah, that was fun to do though, I liked it.- But yeah, you get bonus movies if you join our Patreon from different years,five bucks a month is the base tier,and if you join one of the higher tiers,you can actually recommend a movie for us.But yeah, we did what we do.Any of Jones and Lasker say we did this fear of a black hat,did Batman, the original 89 Timber and Batman.Next up on Patreon is Uncle Block.- Yeah, it's good stuff.- And after Uncle Block, I think we'll do field of dreams.- Man, I'm ready.I like this.- Yeah, but we're doing 89 movies on Patreon,so we're going in the other direction.Anyway, past the halfway point for '93, dude,we got a lot of, still got some really fun movies coming up.- Yeah, I was looking at the list, that's pretty awesome.I'm ready for it.Yeah, as I was reading through the rest of our schedules going,ooh, ooh, oh, that's gonna be great.- Yeah, yeah.I'm super excited.- Dude, same.Why do we pick this movie?Well, you don't even have ever seen this,but I love this movie.- I can remember a lot of people loving this movie.- I think it's a very specific, yeah,you had to have been a jock when this movie came out to really have loved it.And like I played football in high school and in college.and I thought then, and still think now,this is the most accurate college football movie that has ever been made.- I was good 'cause I had a lot of questions about whether or not you were supposed to spit in each other's mouths before you went out the ones you were feeling.(laughing)- I don't know about supposed to,but you definitely are allowed to.The NCAA doesn't care.They fake that by the way, that was CG.- Yeah, I hope so, that was disgusting.- No, they did.Yeah, no, dude, I went through it.I think I've varsity blues is the best high school football movie.And he given Sundays the best pro football movie.And I think the program is remains the best college football.Better than Rudy.Like no, Rudy is a better movie.But I'm saying accuracy.I know Rudy is based on a true story, but like that's not how college football goes.This where the guys injecting clean urine into his bladder so he can go pass a best test.That's more like what the NCAA is actually.That's in the alumni's or shaking hands and passing off 100 bill.- Right, right.That's horrible.- I think this is still scarily accurate.It missed in a couple of fronts.They only have three coaches, you know?Omar Epses weren't Jibbo.There's some stuff that was, you probably fixed now.- So Jibbo's aren't cool.I gotta go change something in my class,I'll be right back.- And 93, the do rag in Jibbo and like,Timberlin's look was absolutely perfect.- Not for us.- I don't think you wanna go out now, rockin' that.Not for me, no.I had some jibos.- Yeah, I did.- Some jibos?- I always liked how, if I had something in my pocket,I had to reach down to my knee to get it.(laughing)- Get your whole arm in there up to the elbow.- Oh man, yeah, the only place you could buy jibos that I remember were either dealers or that place that was over by K&B, by the K-Mart,that was right in front, whatever that was called,Harper and I said it's called Fashion and something.That's the only place.I wonder what was the, what was the thought process behind like?Hey, we got to make jeans where the pockets are big enough,you could put a bike pump in there.- I like a bike pump in my pocket.Dude, I don't know.- What was the point of that?Like if you need to get your wallet, you need to help.- That's why you had the chain on it.- So you could pull it back up.- It's ridiculous.- Yeah, dude, I wasn't, I didn't wear a lot of jibos or Z-Calvoreaches, but I did have at least one pair of boots.- I never had any, didn't Z-Calvoreaches have like elastic around the ankles and some of them did.- Normally you just fold it over and tight roll and really tight and that looked really good with the pleats in the front.- jeans with pleats, some of y'all don't know about that.Probably a lot of y'all actually.- That's really good. - Agreed.But dude, I did like a lot of the other outfits that the ladies were wearing.A nice pattern vest over a button down shirt.That's a gene shirt buttoned all the way to the top,but some highways to genes.That's a good look.She could teach.- Yeah.- Third grade social studies.- Yeah.- Yeah, yeah.- Yeah, you know when the outfits make 23-year-old Christy Swanson and Holly Berry look not that good,that they're really bad.- I don't know.- Christy Swanson, I can take her leave now that I know about her, but.- No, well, I'm saying, now that I know20, 23 Christy Swanson's more of reviews,I'm not that interested, but I'm saying,in nine, nine, eight.- But Holly Berry still thought look all right.are very different. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. You got to really have some bad clothes on a thing. 23 year old Holly Berry looks like, oh right. Agreed. Too shy, honky. That is, that is the truth. That's the truth. Alright, give us a synopsis. Oh, do you want, by the way, do you want the regular synopsis that I just took from the internet or the AI that I had to type into like five different AI's to get one? It kept going a program. You want a TV program and I was like,No, God. Is there a program named 1993? I was like, you're getting it wrong.This movie is not built for the internet age because you have to type in to search for the program and you get all of the internet as they send everything back.Yeah. So I did, I got one. So let's say, yeah, the program released in 1993 is a football drama centered around the competitive world of college football. The film follows players from fictional Eastern State University as they navigate the intense pressures of the game, deal with personal struggles and confront the moral challenges that come with being in the spotlight.That's pretty good. Yeah, any bad? It's not bad. Yeah, it's not bad.Yeah, it could it could have been better. Well, I wanted them to talk about drinking and drugs and studying. Yeah. Well, the movie the movie talks about that money. It does. The writer director,David Ward who also wrote Major League and then wrote Sleepy Since Seattle came out the same year with Nora Efron.He said that what he wanted to do was like make a movie about college football that wasn't just like the movie ends when you win the big game. He's like that's fine if that happens but we need to talk about steroids.We need to talk about recruiting. We need to talk about if they're going to class and study and like I want to get into all of that stuff.Yeah. So that's what he wanted to do which actually is one of the things that I I really liked about this movie and still like about this movie.Yeah, I agree. By the way, did they make it to a bowl game?They never even showed the ball game. Did they? Yeah, they made it to a bowl game and they didn't even show it.Yeah. Okay. Like the movie ends as they win their conference title and become eligible for the bowl.Right. Because there's no college national championship in 1993.So I guess you win the conference, you go to a bowl game, the bowl games like bonus football that no one cares about.Extra bonus football. Yeah. Yeah. Cool.- To be honest, I think we've talked about this,maybe not on here, but you play like 2K.I love playing the games.When it's afterwards, and I gotta go sit in the coach's office and answer questions,I'm like, can I just skip past this?I don't wanna do this.Oh, you gotta go show up at a car wash and take pictures.All you gotta do is click to be button three times.I don't even, like skip to the next game.Like I don't even wanna.- Yeah, yeah.- So part of me when I watch these movies like this,and it's behind the scenes, I'm like,"Nah, I don't care."I don't care how the sausage is made."I just want to see the cool stuff."But then like we always talk about--- Talk about that.- There's something that you might really enjoy though.I'm gonna recommend to you.It's regular football.- Yeah, watch that.But this is the thing.- Yeah, 'cause that's all it is is just the game.- Yeah, I know, and I like that.And I can watch that fairly often.But when I'm like hanging out with people and they want to talk about like salary caps and like what people are doing outside,I don't care about that.- I'm the opposite man.I'm so much more interested in like how NBA teams are built and what people contracts are and playing time and rotations.And then when the game comes on, I'm like,this is fine I guess, but afterwards I can't wait to talk about whether they're gonna change their big man rotation for the next game.- I like when, if it's just like,hey you think they're gonna change,you think they should play this guy more?I understand going, yeah, yeah, that's cool.But I can fill a 30 minute show with what I need to talk about all the way until the next week of football.These people are talking like 24 hours,seven days a week, all about football on the NFL channel.And I don't know how they do that.I don't, I think the way they do it is they could pay to seven figures to talk about football all day on the NFL channel.- Yeah, I'm sure I would find a way to figure out to talk about that too, but I'm saying like.- You definitely would.- I couldn't anymore.Like when Jimmy Graham got signed to the Saints,I had to text some people and go like,is Jimmy Graham still playing football or is this like a practical joke?I didn't, I don't know what.- Is this another Jimmy Graham?- Jimmy Graham, Jr. - I did.- I watched parts of two Saints playoff games in the last three or four years.It's the only football I've watched at all.- Yeah.- So I have no idea who's doing, like,Dad tries to talk to me,"Okay, what do you think about the Saints?"I'm like, "I don't think I can even name a single player."Like, is Drew Breeze still there?- She is.- I don't know.- You know Drew Breeze is there,but I'm saying like, I don't like watching the Saints,but dude, I don't even get emotional about it anymore.I don't know.- Yeah, that's the way to do it.- Yeah.- All right, budget, this movie had a budget,$15 to $20 million somewhere in that range.I couldn't pin down the exact number.23 million dollar gross.Number 66 on the year, which sounds pretty bad,but is also more than life with Mikey and so I married an axe murderer put together.And we might do both of those movies.- I like both of those movies better than this.- I really like, I think we said we're not doing life with Mikey so we can do for Love or Money.Just 'cause we at least, like let's,- You can't double up on that.- Multiple $10 million.Michael J. Fox movies was just pick one.I love that song.Me too.- I'm a good planet.(laughing)- Oh man.- But yeah, so if you go down to like the grossing movies,like if you go through the top 100,you can get into the 80s and still I can at least still find some go, ooh, I remember that movie.I would watch that.- Yeah, dude, you know how I roll.I'm trying to go through Plex and delete some movies that I have and I'm like, I'm better not delete that.I might wanna watch that one day.I did make any money and it's a 3% on right in tomatoes.That's all right, I still kinda like it.- You know, and everybody listening probably knows that we like to pick movies for the podcast we like and not just go straight down and do the 25 highest grossing moves of the year.That's no fun.I think we probably can move pretty quickly through awards and sequels.No awards, no sequels any.Yeah.I didn't see any.Yeah.And do you remember when you first saw this movie?But a week ago, we're going to have.Yeah.What thought you said you'd seen it one time before that?I don't think I have.Now that I'm thinking about it, I think I only saw clips.Yeah.completely honest, there was part of me that was like, oh, I remember there was like some sort of like like problem with this like it was a some kind of issue and they had to fix it because like people were laying down in the street but I was like holy shit, let me look that up. So then I look it up and I find the clip and I'm watching the clip and I'm like that wasn't even in the movie I just watched because they took it out and now I know just I guess maybe we should talk about about that, huh?- There was a scene that came out and when the film first released of the players,like the star players like Alvin Mack and Jo Kay and like laying in the middle of a divided highway,like on the dividing line, just laying in the middle of the road,supposed to show how like crazy they were.- On the double yellow line.- With cars like, yeah, with cars like Whip and Pastim.And then after the movie released, apparently some kids tried that and got killed.And so Disney pulled the film, recut it,and re-released it without that scene in it.And it never, like it's kind of hard to find.I mean, it's on the internet now,'cause everything is, but it wasn't,It wasn't on the DVD, like when it came out streaming,it's not on the streaming, any of the official streaming versions.The places that you could only find it is if some people had it recorded off of VHS, because it was on a television spot.And then the Hong Kong laser desk and the Australian DVD release both had it.Yeah, it's like the original theatrical Star Wars movies that Lucas has redone so many times.It's kind of hard to find the original theatrical releases.Yeah, yeah.You need to go to--And that's for freaking Star Wars, which is one of the biggest movies ever, which this was not.- Yeah, this isn't.And I could see how kids would want to imitate that, I guess.They make it look kind of cool, but like, and scary.And when you're a young kid and you're a jackass,that looks like something that might be fun to imitate,but dude, I can also see why they call it.- Well, the writer director said, David S. Ward said that after the scene had been cut and the movie was re-out, re-released,he's like, it turns out that those kids that had gotten injured or had gotten killed.Like they had been doing that before the movie came out.So he's like, nice.So we felt better because it turned out it wasn't our fault necessarily, but still I never pushed for them to put the scene back in because I didn't want to risk anyone else to do it here.- I'm getting injured right, right, right.But yeah.- Yeah, I think I always saw clips.So I had never watched the whole thing.I don't remember when I first saw this because it was rated R, but I probably saw it in high school because again, I played football in high school and in college.I know I owned it on DVD because I distinctly remember like holding the DVD case.Yeah.But I think I would have seen it on video, but I don't think I owned it.I think I must have just maybe they played it on TV or on a movie channels or maybe I rented it.But I mean, there are movies that like, especially if you take bus trips, like in college,you know, you watch movies on the bus.Everybody that's watching, there aren't that many football movies.So we want to watch necessary roughness on the way to a football game then, you know,- You play as well.Dude, I don't, I can remember people talking about it.I can remember like Thad and Chris talking about it and watching it, but I don't think I'd ever seen the whole thing.Clips is all I've seen.- Nice. - Yeah.- Well dude, tell us, tell us what you rated it since you this your first time ever seeing it and now you're grown.- Now that I'm grown and I can't give it a seven, right?- Yeah. - No sevens.- Still no sevens. - Still no sevens.That's good because I'm giving it a 5.5.- Oh nice, that's better than I would've thought.- Yeah, I don't know, something about it hurt me.- Yes, I don't know what it was.And the whole behind the scenes thing, again,I don't really need to see how the sausage is made.I could see the appeal to it for some people.I don't know, I just had a lot of questions when I left.(laughing)- I wrote them all down in case you can answer them,but I have a lot of questions.- I don't know if I can answer them,but I definitely wanna hear someone.We have to move quickly through the best'cause I actually have some worst-year ideas.- No more me too, okay, good.- Which I think will be able to--- What did you rate it?What did you rate it?- I got it six and a half out of ten.- Oh geez, that's way lower than I thought.- Well, again, no.- You're talking about sevens.I do think it's still really good.And we talked about this when we did in the rookie of the year.Why is it so easy to make good baseball movies and so hard to make good football movies?This is a good football movie, they're just not that good.- Yeah.- But what it is is it's got a surprisingly good cast,like James Con, Omar Epps, Christy Swanson, Craig Sheffer,the guy from River Runs,Andrew Brinyarski, who was a necessary roughness Batman Returns, Hudson Hawk, Holly Berry,who just like is coming off a boomerang,Joey Lauren Adams has sent a little bit of this.She's credited as Joey Adams, she's pretty young.It's got a really good soundtrack,which I didn't remember.And I actually liked a couple of the main characters,like at least three of them had legitimate,like Arks from the beginning of the movie to the end of the movie.And it was the first movie that I had ever seen.really went deep into the kind of underbelly of Big Time College football, which now 30 years later,no one has surprised that college football players are getting $100 hand shakes and taking drugs and hiding it from the NCAA. But in 1993, that was not out there as a thing that everyone knew about.Right. It was definitely more hidden. Dude, I can remember working with a kid that played on South Eastern's team when they came back. And he was like, yeah, I'd have a good game where I have like a Fumble Recovery, a Force Fumble Recovery and like six tackles and they're gonna have like$500 in the envelope in my locker when I got back in there. I was like, what? Right. It's like,yeah, it happens all the time. And not only does it happen all the time, but maybe I cared about that in 1993, but now I'm going good. Give you some money. No, it's different. Yeah. You're making billions of dollars. You should get some of that money. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Agreed. We'll talk about about that we get to the I couldn't go to eight because it just wasn't didn't feel like an eight right. But six and a half I think is is totally legitimate. Cool. Then I feel all right about my five and a half. All right. Let's do scenes, which your first scene.My first best scene was when Jefferson fumbles a darn L Jefferson Omar Epps. He's got to carry the ball around with him all the time. And the other football players have to try to knock it out. It's the teacher and not fumble. And he's in class and the ball goes rolling down the aisle and they all jump off. They're all trying to get the ball. All the football players are in the same class. It seems like. Yes. And they're all trying to get the lose ball.Dude, that one's on my list as well. First real quick, Darnell Jefferson is an amazing running back name. Like if I was going to make, if I was going to make a create a player on Madden, that one, Darnell Jefferson, I could easily use that. That's such a great name.It sounds pretty racist when you say like that. I don't know why.-Ranel Jefferson is the worst swimming name ever.No way, that's racist, she can't say that.-Yeah, next time I play Madden swimming,I'll create Darnel Jefferson and create a player.This is fun, we should do this.We're old white guys.We should talk about if it's racist for me, a white man,to create a black running back on Madden,create a player, 'cause I truthfully don't know the answer.-I don't know, it doesn't matter.-When I go to Taco Bell and they only give me mild sauce,is that racist, 'cause I don't know the answer to that either.-That is not racist, that is accurate.'cause it is accurate, but it feels racist.- Yeah, I'm with you.- No, dude, that seems great.That's on my list.He, during the first practice, he fumbles the ball and the coach is like, "Hey, Jefferson, great run.Imagine if we still had the football."He's like, "You take this football,you carry it with you everywhere."And he like, he tells the whole team,he's like, "If anyone, but Jefferson brings his football back to me, you're gonna be in a world of hurt."And so he's just like carrying it around campus,carrying it like a loaf of bread.- Yeah.- And even in the game, he carries it like a loaf of bread.- Even in, I know, man, I said,carrying it like a loaf of bread five times out loud- I'm not going to watch this movie.(laughing)Which won't make sense to anyone until 1999when any given Sunday comes out.- Right, no, they get it.- Someone knocks it out from under his arm during a class.Also, that's legit.Football players do all take the same classes.- Of course they do.- Because other professors, you were given A's to football players.- Of course they do.- And like 10 people start diving over desks and trying to run down this football and the professors is like,"Old guy, we're in a sleeveless vest."(laughing)And he says, "No idea what's going on."And then like there's a huge pile up,the table gets knocked over, Jefferson, Omar Epps comes up with the football and he just goes like, I'll draw my ball.Yeah, no, that was a good scene.That was a good scene.I think about that all the time.Anytime I'm watching football, which as we've established, is never.And someone fumbles, I'm thinking like, he's gonna have to carry that football around everywhere.I think, when I think of a football movie that I like and somebody fumbles, I think if you remember the Titans, when Denzel's yelling at the kid, why are you dropping up all PD and he's like pointing at him and I will break my foot off in your John Brown Han quarter like he's I like it. Oh man, once you remember the Titans 97 or 98, I'd love that. I don't know. It seems like it's later than that. I don't know. I like that move. That's in my top football movies. Yeah, that's a good call because I like the actual football in that movie. Like you know, we always talk about like, yeah, the people who are chosen. Yeah. The people who are trying to play football in these movies are the people that were in the drama club and now they're trying to pretend to be football players.I don't know why I believed it more when we were doing, when, during Remember the Titans.Well, it's funny that you say that because I legitimately think this was the first football movie to do what a league of their own did and what, uh, dude, why can I not think of a Woody and Wesley playing basketball?Whiteman can jump.Whiteman can't jump did where they actually cast people who could play the sport in the movie.because the football looked good in this.Well, that's what I'm saying.When they cast this, they actually did like,all of the extras were football players,either college or semi-pro football players,and all of the actors had to go through a like a training camp before they could get cast.That's awesome.And then the guy who shot it was a football player for USC,the cinematographer, so they made a real effort to make the football look real.And they said like, like the guy who played Alvin McDoing,Davis was like, I was actually, I had a stunt double,but I was doing almost all of it'cause I played college football.Yeah, so it was pretty big.Yeah, he's freaking huge.So like the football and remember the Titans is good,but this is kind of one of the first ones where they,and remember that became a thing in any given Sunday too.It's like Oliver Stone's figured out all these ways to make the football.Every time you made a football movie,it had to be like the football super realistic.I promise.- Yeah.Can't be point Blake.No.What was the movie with Keanu throwing the football?- Yeah, point break.- Point break, that's right.- Yeah.- Dude, I think Craig Schaffer was it went to the Keanu school of throwing the football'cause they said that he kept asking to like,do the football scenes and the director kept having to tell him,like, no, no, you're not good at it.(laughing)We have a guy who actually was a college football player as your stunt double, he's the one throwing it'cause he looks like he knows how to throw a football.- Yeah, he could be a Heisman candidate.- Did I also think about, by the way,when he carries the basketball everywhere,I think about the pistol peat movie where he slept with the basketball on his bed?- Yeah, a pistol.Someone that was filmed in Hammond.- The one that was filmed in Hammond.the one that maybe only you and I ever saw.'Cause you can't even find it on the internet anymore.But I saw it a bunch, I had it on tape.- It's really good.Craig's uncle's in that.- Nice.- Yeah, it's good stuff.- I'm sure we can get him to come and talk about it if we wanted to.- I could call him right now if we need to.I think I have his number still.- We can go and buy his house any time.- Yeah.- All right, so yeah, that's also one of my scenes.That carry the football everywhere.- So what's your first knot that scene?- My first scene before that was the first practice,the first football practice that leads up to that.- Is it the training montage thing with welcome to the jungle in the background?- I was trying to remember if welcome to the jungle was over the first, but I just remember the first practice,like they're wearing the old practice jerseys that are like mesh.- Yeah, and you gotta see the whole thing.- And they're all wearing like high top adidas,clearly adidas like sponsored this movie.- Right.- And they have the huge frickin' round neck rolls that look like something you'd use at a pool.- That's what I actually make my guy look like when I make Madden.When I play Madden and I have a guy,it doesn't matter what, he's got the neck roll,he's got, I just do the one bar across the front,like a kicker in the 70s.- It's great.- Dude, I know and you know, and probably in Will knows,but I don't know if anyone else knows that when you make a,make a player for a game like that,you spend most of the time changing that player's outfit and not playing the game.- I get it exactly like I want.And then I'm like, oh wait, we still have to play?Yeah, I'm totally with you.I remember playing Borderlands with Y'all.- Yes, exactly.But do that first practice,don't know, Jefferson, Omar Epps, he's the running back.And it's so dumb, but he's talking during all of his runs.He's like doing spin moves and Alvin Mack is talking.They're all talking during the plays.And I don't know why, but I just always remember that.- I always, I put that in my worst actually.Like the voiceovers that they do in movies like this,I never really liked it.And I am somebody who used to talk while we would play basketball on Sunday nights,doing my own play by play.- I've never played college basketball, obviously,or professional basketball, definitely obviously.But people talk a lot more playing basketball than they do play in football.'Cause I played a lot of football,and you have a mouthpiece in.You're not able to talk unless you're Tom Brady,and then you're saying stuff like blue 72,blue 72 said hut.- Right.- Like they're whole like, even the water boys,like even though he was a discodious me recently, I was still have to say Captain Insano.Like, people, there's not just not that much talking on a football field during the play.You have a mouth full of mouthpiece.I totally could see that.I don't know, you know, I've never played football.That's not for me.But yeah, no.So I think, I think welcome to the jungle wasn't that seen.Omar Eps is like doing his spin moves and like talking to Shetty.Fumbles the ball.He has to carry the football everywhere.The coach like gets really mad at Latin America because he's trying to tackle too high and he's like, he's like, he's talking to him in Latin America.I think I could play him as huge.He's like six or five, so James Khan is like telling him,he's like grabbing him by the, he's like,you stop with that, you know, highlight bullshit.He's like, I want you to take your helmet and he punched him in the chest and put it in his chest.And I want to see nothing but snott bubbles.- Yeah, and then at the end of the game,at the end of the movie, when he hits that guy,there's the snott bubbles coming out.- Yeah, I like that.- Yeah, and then straight after that practice scene is when Jo Kaine walks through the locker room and meets Christie Swanson.So I was trying to count those two together'cause neither of them were good enough on their own.- Yeah, so you like when he met Christie Swanson?- Yeah, because that part was,he like walks through the locker room wearing like skinny jeans and cowboy boots and she's in there working out with a knee brace on.- And Casey's.- And he's trying to talk to her.So he like sits down in his full,like I'm going to the bar outfit and starts doing lap pull downs.Like staring right at her, like how's it going?So you just try to tone.(laughing)- See, I put in there after that as a bonus scene for me was when they went and played tennis.And he was dressed like the older brother from Goonies.And she was playing tennis in high-waisted Gene Shorts.And I was like, Jesus Christ, I would be,my inner thighs would be ground meat.I mean, there's no way I'm running that much in Gene Shorts.- If I tried to play tennis in Gene Shorts,my crotch would spontaneously stick in bus.Just catch on fire from friction.And then he loses and he's like playing other sport go out with me. I'm like, what? Is that how you do that?That's definitely an early 90s thing where it's like you have to like trick a woman into going out with you. It's like you got beat me in a sport or I'm taking you out of my motorcycle.And she's like, what? All right, I guess I'll see you tonight.I guess I don't have any choice. I guess I'll do that since you are still in college and you're obviously 32 years old. Everyone else was pretty close to the right age. But yeah,Craig Schaeffer was 33 when this movie was released. 33 now. I was guessing 32. He looked older.Yeah, well, he'd been on the river with Brad Pitt fish and so he had a lot of sun.Yeah, what's your next scene?All right, so I had when he fumbles the ball for the first one and then I had that training montage and I think we're talking about the same one. Yeah, so that's my two.That's my practice. Right. And then for the third, I just had all of the football scenes because I,like again, I thought they were really pretty good. Yeah, the football was great. I think it looked- That's good.I looked good.- Yeah.My third scene is Alvin Mack.It's really two scenes, but they cut.They're meant to cut one from the other.He's first, he's talking to his tutor.He's the star middle linebacker.He's gonna be a high NFL draft pick.And the tutors, it's just meant to show how much he doesn't give a shit about school.'Cause the tutors, who fought in the Punic Wars?He's like, I don't know, the Troy and Buffalo.- Yeah.- And he's like, Alvin, you're gonna be tested on this.and then it is immediate cut to the film room and the coach James Conn is gone.He's like, all right, Alvin, Mississippi State offense,second and two on their own, 24,what defense do we call him?He goes, "Eagle zipper hero,"unless the back shifts into the eye."And it's like five minutes of him like spitting out defensive calls.And it's like, actually, this guy's not dummy.Just doesn't give a shit about school because he's gonna play professional football.- Is he though?- Is he though?Spoiler alert, he's not, he hurts his knee.- Yeah, it blows his knee up.- But I really like that they just do that.like this guy's like, it's not that he doesn't care,it's not that he's dumb,it doesn't care about school 'cause he doesn't need to.- Right, but actually, it knows a lot about football.- I mean, I know who fought in the Punic Wars because I teach that.- Right.- But like, do you need to know who fought in the Punic Wars?- No, you definitely don't need to know that.You also don't need to know what to do against Mississippi State second and two on their own 24.But the point that the movie's trying to make that I really liked is that this guy's not dumb.- Right.- He just is spending all of his energy learning thinking about football right right that's a good call because it's not a lot of times where it's like all the athletes are just coasting through school it's like yeah they totally are because they're making the school millions and millions of dollars on the football field they don't care about school and I don't care that they don't care about school right right actually think I think it's I think it's good to like not give it to stereotype this guy actually is dumb as a box of hammers is like no he actually he's pretty smart he's just just thinking about football all the time who who did find the- I'm gonna put it in a course, do you know?- I have no idea.- It's Room.- Room and Carthage.- Cool.- Or any of those in Greece?- Hannibal Barka, man.Finations.- Great.- He's my favorite, one of my favorite people in history is Hannibal Barka.- Yeah, I'm just gonna mark this clip so I can delete it out later.- Yeah, do you wanna, do you wanna me just talk for the rest of the hour on that?'Cause I got some good stories.- War elephants, man.War elephants.- I do like war elephants.Now I'm gonna have to delete it out'cause you just yell about war elephants.- Oh, leave me there.- All right, cool, is that the end of your scene?- Yeah, it's a, I got no other scenes.- All right, dude, my first quote,which I still think applies to almost every football game is are you injured or are you hurt?- Yes, that's what I got.And then he's like, what do you mean?He's like, well, if you're hurt, you can still play,but if you injured, you can't.So are you hurt?Are you injured?He's like, I think I'm just hurt.- Yeah, that's Omar Epps, Darnell Jefferson.That's such a genius quote that I have thought about a million times since then.That is literally the only quote that I have.Nice.I don't have any other ones.I have one more really good one,and then I have one that's,I don't think is all that great.The other one that's Christy Swanson,after Joe goes in his cowboy boots and does some lat pull downs while talking to her.Any insults her like four times.He's like, "Hey, go out for a drink with me."And she's like, "I don't go out with football players.They're all full of themselves."And I saw you on the cover of Sports Illustrated,so you're probably worse than most.Worst than most.Boy, she was right.I was like, "God, that's a great quote."Yeah.Yeah, I have to have more questions.We'll get there.Keep going.What's your last one that's not that good?Yeah.And also spoiler alert, he was worse than most.Yeah, he was.The other one I had was, these are just ties between things they say during the football games that I don't think,like their dumb, but people say dumb stuff in football huddles, I promise.One of them is Alvin Mack who always says,"Kill 'em all, let the paramedics sort 'em out."All right.And then Jo Kaine says,put the women and children to bed and go looking for dinner.Yeah, he says that a bunch.So that's what they both say that a bunch.Yeah, that's my question though.So do people say stuff like that in the huddles?I don't remember.I don't remember anyone like trying to get a catch phrase out,but people definitely said dumb stuff.But if someone kept saying the same thing over and over,we're going to be like, again, with that,I'm not inspired anymore.I'm trying to bring it.I'm trying to make it happen.I'm trying to make it happen.My favorite thing that anyone ever said in the huddle is during the first 49ers Super Bowl.They were not yet a dynasty and everyone, they were down and it was getting into the fourth quarter and they got into the huddle.And Joe Montana just pointed into the stance.He's like, "Hey, it's John Candy!"(laughing)And then all the 49ers offense realized he wasn't nervous at all and then went down scored and they won.That's awesome.Yeah, Montana was pretty good.-Jomontania.Yeah, so those are the quotes I got.That's good. I was having trouble finding quotes that I really liked. I put both of those quotes that you put at the end as Just questions like do they really say like let's put the women and children to bed and go look for an error Like what what does that even mean? I don't know. I maybe maybe Football on offense is only for grown men and not for women and children I don't know put them to bed and then go look for dinner and that bitch better have cooked it for me It should be having the time to throw off the back of my motorcycle Which is fine. She's wearing a helmet and I'm not yeah good call. Yeah, let's do characters then There's not a lot of great quotes. There's one amazing quote. Yeah, that's the one I picked right yeah Who's your first character first character? Halle Berry Because even in 90s clothes she's still good looking bring back the suit jackets over the Pattern less shade sleeveless vest I like how you say sleeveless vest like an ATM machine I think I think Vest don't have sleeves, isn't that a thing?- Yeah, you might be right about that.Maybe that's why they're vest.Probably don't need to sleeve this part in there.- The department ever done the C department.(laughing)- What's the right, oh sweater vest, that's what it's called.- Sweater vest, yes.She, but some of these weren't sweater vest.They were like the silky stuff on the back.- Yeah, yeah, yeah, she had a little bit of embroidery.- Yeah, like vest.- With a button down, G-Shirt all the way to the top.Tucked in.Speaking of tucked in man, Lattimer liked to tuck his stuff in all of it.All of it. No, I put Hallie Berry because I just liked her.That's it. I just liked her.Her character was fine. I guess I don't know. She was cheating on her man, but he was kind of a jerk.I wasn't real sure if they what their status was because she, he, she caught him with a white girl.And then she think she kissed Omar Epps and then he came back around in the fall.and they were kind of together.She maybe forgiven him,but then she decided she was mad at him and then I couldn't tell if they--- Yeah, I can't tell the relationship to that.Also Omar Epps just wanting to kiss people after,thanks for giving me that tour.How about some tongue?He just like shot a shot right there.Jesus.- Okay, I don't know.I mean, I guess if you're Omar Epps, you can do that.- You should go and ask some of the star football players at the high school that you teach,whether or not that's realistic.and I will not be surprised at the answer, you might be.- Maybe I can just ask their babies.Dude, I just can't imagine like doing that to somebody, Billy.Thanks so much for showing me around.- This has been a fun two hours that you got paid for.How about now we make out?(laughing)- Excuse me, I'm, do you know where the toilet paper is?It's on Al seven.All right, come here.And you just mug down on her.I don't--- Let's seal this with a kiss.Thank you for that service.All right, cool.So you like Holly Berry,because Holly Berry is Holly Berry, that's great.- That's why I picked her.- Autumn Hayley.- And her last name was Hayley, just spelled different.- Yep.My first one is Omar Epps,Darnell Jefferson.- The best one back name.- He's pretty new, man.It's a great running back name.I don't know if that's racist.Jeff says maybe it is.I don't know why it would be,but I just think Darnell Jefferson is a great name.- It's what it is.- He's pretty new to acting.He's 20 in this film.He was in juice the year before this,and he's a year away still from playing Willie Mays Hayes and Major League 2.- Oh, so good.I just thought he did a really good job, man.He's in a bunch of scenes with Holly Berry,and Holly Berry has the best actress to ask her,like not now, but down the road.And he's better than she is in those scenes.Like head to head with someone we know is gonna turn out to be an amazing actress.- Right.- Like Omar Epsen's good, man.He's doing a good job.- I like him and a lot of the things that I've seen him in.There was one that he was in, Mod Squad,like the TV show Remake movie, it's got awful.With G. Avon and Robisi.I had left, I loved Omar Epsen that, man.I thought he was so cool.- Yeah man, I like Omar Abso, I like him in the wood,love and basketball, you know, major league two.Like he's just, he's good.- Yeah, he is good.I liked him.He was my second pick also by the way.- Nice.- The wood in 1999, I'm gonna set on my calendar like,let's see if we can get Omar Abso to talk to us about the wood.- I'll take any of those guys to talk to you.I love that movie.- I do too.- Hey, nobody cooking you, that's Chris.- Where the bathroom at?(laughing)- Yeah, great movie.My second one is Craig Shefford is Jo Kaine.- Yeah, I didn't put him.- He's, I mean, honestly, man, there's a bunch of,I didn't think everybody was doing a good job.Nobody was like, wow, they really blew me away.- Yeah.- He's like, I don't think Craig Shefford is lighting the world on fire, but he's solid.Like, I think it's a really good casting for him because he's like a B-level leading man with limited range and this is a B-level movie where he's not asked to show a lot of range.- Right.- So, but like, it's an important part.Like, he's, yeah, he can't throw the football.I mean, he can't throw the football,but not as good as the guy who actually played college football who was just on double.- Correct.- But he's the lead character of the movie and I thought he was fine.Like he was good.There was never a point where I was like,"Adam, so annoyed at which they'd put somebody better than this in this part."And we watched Point Break and I wish they'd put somebody other than Keanu in that part and everyone loves that movie and Keanu.- Everybody.- So I got someone to recognize Craig Sheffer.- That's good.- Yes, as we said, he's 33 plane in college,junior, standard Hollywood nonsense.(laughing)- Welcome to Greece.- Dude, I'll still--He's a he's a Heisman candidate Star quarterback and he lives in the dorms. Yeah, of course he does This is 1993 man. They can't even allow to have jobs We had a motorcycle yeah, but that's because he stole it from his dad the drinker. I don't know dude. I got nothing All right, it was your next character The next character is the only person I thought did a really good job acting and that was a Latimer Yeah, I thought he did a fantastic job.He did.Sure, he was a huge, huge, huge dude.And he talked to Sheridan all the time and he wore weird face paint and he was a freaking royded head that went crazy, but he was still likable.And that's where I liked about it.Andrew Binyarski plays Latimer and he did a great job of portraying frankly a kind of awful person who was totally roared it up.He was like smashing his head through car windows.He tried to rape a girl.Like he was not--That girl was so--I don't know if he was really big or she was really tiny or both.That chick looked tiny.Um, he's for sure really big.He's six foot five.So like, I might look like that standing next to him in this movie because he's enormous.She was like picking her up and throwing her and I was like, oh my god, that is like a little child.Yeah, I don't think I could throw my toddler who weighs 30 pounds the way he was throwing that full-grown woman around.I know, I know that's what I'm saying.It's crazy.It's crazy.But no, I really liked what he did.He was really good.I think it's good to recognize someone who does a really good job of portraying an awful human.And he did.Yeah.And dude, like when he was supposedly supposed to quit,but then went back to it and then went crazy and hit the guy and the snout bubbles and he comes on the side and James Khan's looking at him.Doesn't even need to say anything.And you could see him.He's looking at him with his crazy friggin' roi dyes.and then he just looks down at the ground'cause he knew like he let James Con down and then went and cried on the bench like, quote,"Tears of joy."Like I, that's what the announcer said.Dude, I thought he did a great job.I was like, he made me believe all of the things that he just did.- Yeah, he totally did.Also, I thought that was a real,I had to go back and re-watch that'cause I was trying to figure out,he's sitting on the bench after the game where they win the conference championship.The announcer's think he's crying tears of joy,but really he's very upset.- Right.I'm like, the James Con, like kick him off the team and I missed it and it's like,no, he just looked at him and he was disappointed because he knew that he was back using again.- Right.- And he's just like sitting there trying to like deal with that.I was like, dude, that was actually pretty,that was a pretty well done moment because they could have been a lot more- Yeah, it was a great way to get over it.- They could have been a lot more heavy handed about that.- Yeah, and dude, I am a huge sissy.So like my dad would be like,I'm very disappointed in you.I'd start crying right then.My sister, she's like, you're gonna be really mad when you see the other stuff that I did.Like, the same thing with my kids, Jake.- Yeah.- He'll cry at the drop of a hat if he knows we're upset with him or we just, he disappointed us,but like, Cici, she's a serial killer.She's gonna, she's got the crazy rowing eyes.She's not gonna,- Yeah.- She's painting her face like a Halloween smashing her at the card,Carwindos.- Oh wait, I recognize you.- You don't have defense, a place at the table.(laughing)- Yeah, by the way, the announcers were using the exact same microphones that UNI used to record our podcast.- I did see that, and you know what else I noticed?There was one point where it was fourth down in the movie,and the guy said first down,but it was dubbed over for fourth down.- Good catch.I did not see that.- 'Cause I guess they just didn't want to film that again.- Yeah, well, yeah, you only got so much time.They spent $15 million on this thing.A lot of it was on face paint.My third character, I almost went Vladimir,but I wanted to do doing Davis.- Yeah.- He's Alvin Mack, he's the middle linebacker.I don't think it's the most important role,but he was just so good.- Yeah, he was.- He's huge, he's super intense,he has a couple serious moments.He gets hurt and so he's not gonna go pro and he's sitting back and I guess his mom's kind of like clapboard house.- Yeah, dude, so if you get hurt,you don't get to go on the sidelines anymore?Or?- I'm sure he could have that main game was at home,but he just, I guess maybe he wasn't healthy enough to stand up.Like usually when someone gets,but actually I kinda like that.Like in real life, yes, he could have been there.But I like that normally what happens in the sports movie is someone gets hurt and then they come and encourage the team before the last game and they're on the sidelines and they're helping the coaching staff and they're like shouting out people and they're an important part of the victory.And I liked what this movie did,which was like this guy got hurt and no one even visited him.He just went home and was listening to the games on the radio.- That's crazy to me.- Yeah.I'm sure that I mean, you know, I played football with guys who got hurt and I still hung out with them But I wasn't like gonna be an NFL draft pick so I don't know I see the football we played is more like back yard football than regular shoe football. Yeah, it's tiny school Yeah, but I liked that they did that and he was really good Also like I found it Doing Davis who by the way, I think he's is he our first three-time actor Because he's he's- He's an understage. - He's an understage.- Yeah. - Don't throw at the stone hands,and he's a necessary reference.- Don't throw at the stone hands.- Yeah, understage and that's something like,dude, these are our first three-time actor, I'm not sure.- That's great.- Christy Swanson, we got a bunch of two-time,chef or Christy Swanson.We've seen Joy Lauren Adams was in Days and Confused.- Yeah.- Very briefly.But anyway, also, Duane Davis said he based Alvin Mac on Derek Brooks, which is fantastic.- Nice.- Because Derek Brooks is an absolute maniac.- Yeah, he's a bad man.And I wanted to say that doing Davis, his dad was a Hall of Fame defensive end, Willie Davis.- Ooh.- Dwayne played college football for Missouri until he broke his leg.And then his son is in the NFL right now.He's a Wyatt Davis.- Dang, that's pretty nice.- And that's pretty awesome.- I knew it was pretty awesome.This dude's like a legit football player.- When he, and he was like talking about how he's 250 pounds, I was like, wait a second,he's playing defense.That doesn't sound like that's big enough.But then I looked it up, most linebackers like...- Oh yeah, dude.Brooks was in 200 and they're like 220 pounds.Yeah, there are some like huge, massive, like,volumetric, like, yeah, like 220 to 30.I try to think of who my pick would be for like best linebacker ever.And I pick like Lawrence Taylor.So then you look him up even in his peak.He was like six, two, six, three, probably 240 maybe.So like that's, that's probably right on, on par.I was just thinking 250 was too small to play defense.- Well, I think you, Alvin Mac was a middle linebacker.Lawrence Taylor was a kind of religious and outside backer kind of combo.So you may be bigger, but you're still talking about like Ray Lewis, like Dick Budkiss.- Yeah.- You know, like those guys were not huge.I mean, there are some huge middle linebackers,but yeah, I think that like Ray Lewis was an undersized middle linebacker.He was like, I think 220 pounds, something like that.- Yeah, he laid the wood though.- The point is that you and I are both way too big to play that position.- Right.Yeah, that's what I was trying to get to to see if I can still maybe make it happen.(laughing)- Oh man, I would be, even if I was an amazing kicker,that would be too much work for me.That was terror growing, trying to warm up.(groaning)- Oh, that's great.- The kicker.- The Lone Couture.- James Con as Coach Winters was really good.He didn't make it into the...- He did make it for me.- I didn't like his voice.I don't know why he did his voice like that.Or if that's what he always thought.- He seemed like he was doing a lot of like,exasperated, Nick Nalti, yeah, damn it, Chewbacca.- Yeah. (laughs)- He was exasperated a lot.- Yeah.Oh man, yeah, I just didn't like it.I don't know.And he has this thing with his right ring finger where it goes down towards his palm when he talks.And I didn't like that.Also, I felt bad for the people that took the time to mix the gatorade,put it in the little cups and have it on the table.And they came in at halftime and he lost his mind and flip the whole table over.But he made the backup quarterback clean it up.He's like Collins, get him up.Bobby Collins. - Bobby Collins.- I love Bobby Collins.He's one of my favorite comedians.My dog, I love my dog.- My dog.- Sousa sauce. - Sousa sauce.- Sousa sauce.Also that floor was carpet.You can't be mopping up the carpet.- Not with a towel like he threw to Bobby Collins.Speaking of which.- Wait, wait, Rufas, before I forget this,'cause I just thought of it.Bobby Collins cheated on his, on his test by having his girlfriend who was James Conn's daughter.The coach's daughter.Take the test.And she was going to show up and try to pretend her name was Bobby.I'm like, that would have, I was like, that never would have worked.That's a, that's a boy's name.But then I realized who's playing that.And, and her name is Joey.So I guess that could have worked.The funny thing about that is that I have this in my bonus stuff.All of the crazy football stories from this movie actually really happened.So like the backup quarterback, hooking up with the coaches' daughter, that actually happened at University of Colorado.Ladimer is based on a player from South Carolina.Sports Illustrator wrote about this guy, like the headbutting the car window and everything that all actually happened.That's crazy.Like the backup quarterback, getting kicked out of school because the coaches' daughters cheating on the test forum, like that really happened.Kane, the quarterback going to rehab and the backup being reinstated, that happened at Penn State.this stuff really happened. I mean, not all at one school, obviously, but like in college football around this time. So when I'm reading about the other writer, the Aaron Latham guy, he was a contributor for like, you know, Rolling Stone and New York times and stuff like that.He wrote an article and that's what inspired the movie Urban Cowboy and it says another article inspired this. So is that one of the articles like he probably wrote one of those articles, yeah, that talked about.Yeah, probably so.Like, had all the like wild stories that David S. Ward then took and put into this movie.Yeah, that's awesome.Which is perfect because we're at the writer director actor stuff.David S. Ward writer director, we had talked about Road Sleepers since Seattle, did majorly,directs major league to, wrote this movie with Aaron Latham, who was a journalist.And then some of his articles got turned into movies which he had some part in writing and I don't know how much.Yeah, well, he wrote people working together on stuff.I don't know how that works.- Yeah, I never know how that works either.By the way, you mentioned that he directed Major League II.He wasn't involved in Major League III,but he is on board for four, which--- Yeah, but four's been in development for like 11 years.- Yeah, yeah, yeah.- I don't think that's happening.- Oh, come on though, man.Bring back Wild Thing.- That would be hard to ensure Charlie Sheen for a movie I think anymore.- Yeah.- Yeah, so, and that's really all the writers and directors is that one guy,But like I said, almost all the characters and storylines are based on real stuff that happened at real college programs, like around this time in the early '90s,late '80s.- Yeah.- They had a hard time finding the school to shoot the movie at because it had a reputation like it was gonna make college football not look good.- Right.- Which I guess when it's realistic and that makes it not look good.- Yeah, that makes it bad.- That makes it really, doesn't look good.- Right.That means it's so good.- But like, they ended up filming it at South Carolina,the University of South Carolina.And then there's, do there's some funny stuff,like Michigan wouldn't let them use Michigan as an opponent in the movie unless Michigan won the game in the movie.- Man, that's ridiculous.- There's some schools like Georgia Tech and Mississippi State that didn't care,but Michigan's like you can't use Michigan in the movie unless Michigan wins.God, this is why people don't like people at like schools.- Speaking of Mississippi State,when he's riding the motorbike and she's on the back,that was actually them riding it.Like you know how sometimes it'll be like a lower shot where you can't see they're on a truck.They were actually riding that.- You saw him on early on when they're on the road or going slow and then they start to go,like not the stunt riding parts.- No, no, not that.- Yeah, and not to sound like Jonas,but they did change the bike tires halfway through.- They did, they did, because they were all nobilate.But it was also really them riding the bike when she got on the bike, like in the college quad and he rode down the sidewalk.- I saw that, that's what I'm saying.Like that's weird to me, that they would let a 33 year old junior that's been redshared at that many times drive her around.That's not good.Second thing is, is they played, if you don't know me by now, Teddy Pindagrass singing with Harold Melvin and the Blinards.That's what I'm saying.Good soundtrack.I'm glad Simply Redry did it though, because it's a way better version.I know.I like the Simply Red version better too.Just wanted to mention that.My first worst is right back to the motorcycle.He tricks Christie Swanson into going on a date with him, which I guess is how he did it in the 90s.He got it.She gets on the motorcycle after making it clear that she didn't want to get on the motorcycle and she promised her dad She wouldn't get on a motorcycle and he likes it's on he guilt's her into it And then and he's like no crazy stuff don't go fast And then he starts driving like a frickin maniac and he's like goes into the quarry and he's like wheeling around He's shooting gravel out the side. He's like jumping up and stuff. Yeah That's a super shitty thing to do and she should have never talked to him again Yeah, but I mean you saw his hair you got a it is good hair. He's great here He still has good hair. Look at him on Wikipedia. He's still got good hair.But yeah, that's a super shitty thing to do to a date to freaking.She doesn't want to get on the motorcycle. You trick her into it and then you start driving like a jackass.I agreed. I didn't like that.The one of the worst that I had that I haven't talked about yet is the last play took 76 seconds from the whistle to the snap. And then he like did a tuck rule thing like and fumbled it but then and picked it up and ran with it.- Yeah, but you're talking about like 10 years before there's a tuck rule.- Right, right, right.I'm saying like, he wouldn't get it now.If he was getting hit now, while that happened,they would definitely call it a pass.- Yeah.- But yeah, I just, the fact that it took 76 seconds.That's, again, we talked about it when we said baseball's okay and not football.Like, you got more time between pitches if you need it.- Yeah, well, a lot of it's in slow motion,But yes, it's not like that took 76 seconds of full speed real time.It was like slow mo multiple camera angles repeating stuff.No, no, no, like I'm talking about they blow the whistle and then they're walking back to the huddle and James cons grabbing a guy and then sending them out there with the play and then they walk out there and they're putting the women and children to bed and they're taking them and they're going to look for dinner and letting paramedics sort of them out and they're walking out and they're looking and they're audible and they're showing people in the crowd and I'm like what the hell?Let's go snap the ball.Like did the guy not do the thing where he swings his arm and starts the clock?What's the deal?Oh man.So it took 76 seconds.That's fantastic.The stunt double quarterback that did that throw because they actually did that during the halftime of I think South Carolina and Tennessee game.Oh nice.They came out.They filmed that.They had to do it during the halftime of the game.So they only had so many chances to do it.Right.And they took 76 seconds to get all that.No, I'm just kidding.Well, that part was important, obviously.But yeah, no, the guy rolled out.And then when he drops the football,like he actually dropped it.It wasn't so--- He wasn't supposed to drop it nice.- So like the slow motion of him running to get the football as it bounces and it bounces back into his hands and he throws it.That was not scripted.That was just like happy accident.- That's pretty cool.- And he throws it to frickin Omar Epps.And Omar Epps actually did.It wasn't him.It wasn't a stunt man.It was him.He jumps up and catches it.Like drama school Omar Epps,but just happened to hit him right in the belly.- Nice.It's like all that stuff happened live, unscripted,and that was the one we used.- That's awesome.- That's awesome.- That's awesome.- Yeah, yeah, I don't have any other really worst.Unless we wanna go to worst effects, I have a couple of this.- Well, we talked about the attempted rape and the sexual assault in the road raging Vladimir and had a bad again and worst, obviously,'cause that guy should not only not be allowed to play football anymore, but he should be in prison.- Right.- Great.- I already talked about the Heisman finalist lives the dorm that was weird to me.- Yeah, wait, I do want to talk about that for a second too.When he was talking on the phone,which was an old phone that he had,he had a candle in a bottle like it was on an Italian restaurant sitting on his nightstand.(laughing)And I don't understand that.Like why?- I don't know.That also,Latimer, can you just flush anything that fits down the toilet?- No, I put that down to down here at the bottom.- When he gave up his steroids,like, I know you like dump your drugs down the toilet.That's the thing people do in movies, but usually it's like pills.- He puts syringes and everything.- He put full, it's syringes.He put glass bottles.- Yes. - Just whoosh.- Who did all those drugs going forever?We fixed that problem.So, Tee, do I even have a trash can?- Yeah.- Yeah, but then you could find it in the trash can.If it's in the toilet, they'll never find it.- Yeah, until it's stopped.- Yeah, until it's stopped up.Right at the bottom of the toilet where you shit,I'm sure 11 times a day,'cause I was as big as a rhinoceros.(laughing)How long before you don't test positive for steroids, do you know?Ed Donnell, do you know?Yeah, I do.You're in test 14 days.If you take it by mouth, if you inject it, it can be detected up for a month.Nice.So that dumping it down the toilet, it's not going to get him ready for the next game.Not going to get ready, but you know what?If you put the bladder full of clean urine, that also doesn't work.Okay.People still do that, by the way.Cause you'll still, of course they do.'cause you'll still have some regular urine in there.- Yeah, your bladder never all the way empties out.So it's your urine in there too.- The other one that I had was we talked about it briefly,but can you run a high level college program with three coaches, head coach,offense and defense coordinators?- That's all you need.- I was curious about this.So I went and looked it up.LSU in 1993, it was five and six.You got so many coaches they had on their coaching staff.- 20.- 10.- Jesus.- Do you know who's the head coach in 1993?- Don't tell me.uh, uh, Janardo.No, what's his name?No, before Janardo.I'm currently home and currently home and who is the quarterback Tommy hotson?I got dude, I don't know any of these people.Jamie Howard.Guess who's guess who's guess who's the wide receiver on this 93 team?Uh, Eric Martin.You're gonna be so mad you didn't get this Eddie Kenneson.Eddie Kenneson, I remember him.All right.And guess who the tight end is?Uh, John Tyson.David LaFlore.Who?David LaFlore.Not on a memorandum.You don't remember him?You played for the Cowboys.The Cowboys?And Kevin Moai was the center who played in the pros for like 16 years.I got nothing.The only thing I looked up is because he was going to win the Heisman.I wanted to see who actually won the Heisman in 93.Do you know who won?No.He didn't get drafted.He was one of the only guys to not--No, Charlie Ward.Charlie Ward.Yeah.Ended up playing for the Knicks.Played for the Knicks.Yeah, yeah, dude LSU's five and six and has ten coaches and this this Bull eligible team is some all he has three coaches. That's pretty awesome. I want to take you on a quick Stroll down memory lane through the curly homen era LSU teams do that. I don't remember curly homen The do you ever get Charlie Ward confused with Andre where?Do you remember Andre where?Like for Houston and had like a thousand million yards of game. Yeah. Yeah, he won the Heisman also I used to get those confused.I just didn't know if you did also.- All right, you got FX or?- Yeah, two things.The voiceover smack talk that we talked about, I hated.Like I hated it.It was so not good.- I know.That was bad.- I didn't like it.Also the ESU bus that pulls up and drops off Omar Eps needs brakes bad.I don't know if they were trying to make it sound like a bus breaking, but every time it happened,it was bad.And the amount of penalties.freaking Stonehands got hurt on a crack back block.Was that not a thing back then?Could you crack back?'Cause like they even said like on the long like putt return that Omar Epps had, he was like,oh beautiful crack back block at the 30 yard line.Then I started thinking like,I thought those were illegal or is that only illegal now?Well, I don't, it is illegal now,but I think even now between the tackles it's legal.I think it's only outside in the open field that is illegal. - I got you.Yeah, I'm pretty sure he got hurt on a legal play.The weird thing to me is that I guess maybe a 93,like he broke his leg or something,but like that wouldn't be a career ending injury now.No. Maybe it would have been 30 years ago.I don't know. Actually, it was pointing the wrong way when he was laying on the field though.Yeah, dude, totally was.But who's the Miami running back that got his shit like totally destroyed and then Willis McGay?Yeah, it sounds right.Yeah, he, we have it. I'm saying in college.Oh, Miami, hurt. Oh, Miami, hurt. Oh my, he hurt. Uh, up, up. Like his shit got absolutely destroyed.And then he played, yeah, for like 10 years, any of that. Nice.Put it anyway. Yeah, yeah. The medicine's better than it was in 93.Yeah, we know more about needs. So, uh, five questions.Is it okay for kids? Definitely not. Uh, no. No, it's not.It's our rated. It's all right.I didn't, I didn't, oh, dude. I put it at the bottom and I didn't even see it.They gave him, oh, we're apps $50 per game.And then Stonehand said you can't live off no $500 more scholarship.And then he said, "Dick it three million just for going to a bowl game."So I decided to look up the Duke's Mayo Bowl.How much do you think the teams get for that?You mean now?Yeah, now.I don't know.Like $15 million?No, jeez, no.$4.7.Yeah, I don't know.Yeah, $4.7.I don't even know if the Duke's Mayo Bowl game is like a big bowl game or a shitty like the one that I always use in the example.like the Pop Darts bowl or like the the weed whacker bowl.- Yeah, there's definitely a weed whacker bowl.Yeah, I just, I didn't realize that three million,if they get three million for a bowl game back then,that was actually not that different from now.- But I wonder if back then they used to keep,'cause right now I think if you go to a bowl game,the money split between the entire conference.- Right, but I wonder if back then,the school actually got to keep it all.- Well, no, actually, so each conference gets $300,000 for each school that meets the academic performance and is bowl eligible.So then the power five conferences,they split the 74 million between all of the schools.And then they get like, you know, 2.7 million just for travel expenses if they have to travel.Or they get an additional 4 million if they are part of a different conference.It's ridiculous.There's so much money.- I just, I can't imagine the travel,like yeah, $3 million for travel.It's like where are we going?Is it, are we taking a space shuttle?- Yeah, or like when the LSU plays at the Sugar Bowl,and they're like, "We gotta drive all over to New Orleans.We need $2.75 million.Give it to me right now.That's crazy."- Yeah, I feel like I could make my whole house float for less than that.(laughing)- In water?- No, just the hover above the air with big giant fans underneath it.- Nice.Yeah, no kids for me.No, you can't let the kids watch it too dirty.- Yeah, yeah.Would this movie get made if it were pitched now?- Yeah.- Sure, why not?I think the whole thing about them dealing with the fame is still a problem, but the money parts changed.Yeah.Well, in like Friday Night Lights is not that different from this.The TV show, not the movie in that ran not that long ago.Yeah.I actually was like, they were freaking murdering people in that show.Yeah.I could see both TV and movie actually.Yeah.Absolutely.Did you do any recasting?Yeah.So the James Conn, the person who is the same age as him, because that's how I do it, Omar Epps.Yes.So he should be the coach.- I do.- Halle Berry should be Zendaya.Omar Epp should be played by Hudson Yang from a Fresh Off the Boat.Jo Cain should be Ice Cube son,Oshade Jackson Jr.And Christie Swanson should be Meg Donnelly from the Zombies movies that my daughter loves.- Nice.Yeah, that's pretty good.I like that.- It's a little diversification for you.- Yeah, well this movie was actually pretty diverse.I think because they actually wanted people who could look like they played sports.So we actually got a whole bunch of people and not just like, here's seven drama kids.- Right.- And the ages were pretty close too.Like, Jo came his way off, he's 33.But everyone else, I look out for this.- Everybody else was 20, 22, 23.They're in the right, they're in the right, right.- Yeah, they fit, they fit.- Can you still watch and enjoy this movie in 2023?I like it.I actually think it's pretty tight and it's enjoyable.I'm not gonna watch it a whole bunch of times after this.But I think that's how I try to rate it.Like, will I watch it?I will delete it off aplex'cause if I wanna be able to watch it, I can.But, you know, you know how I roll.I'll probably never watch this one again unless somebody asks me.- Yeah.That's all right.It's okay, it's not streaming anywhere.You gotta pay for it on Amazon Prime like I did,or you can watch the entire thing on YouTube that someone clearly like ripped from a DVD.- Yeah.- And if you do watch it on YouTube,you should check out the comments where people are arguing about when the tuck rule started.(laughing)'Cause the first seven comments,"Here's all the things that suck about this movie."And I was like, "Is this Jonas?I gotta check the screen name.But it wasn't.- Ah, nice.- Anyway, check out Patreon if you want bonus content if you want to support the arts,five bucks a month gets you all the bonus movies.Next Patreon movie will be Uncle Buck.Next regular feed.- Yeah, you saw what it was.- Two stone.- Dude, Justin time for National Cowboy Day.- Justin time for National Cowboy Day.I love Tombstone, I can't wait.- Dude, I, it's been a while since I've seen it.I can't wait to watch it.- Oh man.- I love--- All Kilmer is so good and I'm very excited.- It's gonna be good.- Can't wait till I do you.- And now, kids will not rebel day.- He's cooking our garbage.- Yeah.- All right.Anything else?- Thanks for listening.- Bye, Countries.- Let's put the women in children 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